[CDR]

Grass looks great!
Amazing given the weather this year.

 

[RFI]

@RFI, with all respect, that does not sound like a good plan. I have planted at least four (or five?) cultivars of bluegrass on my lawn and helped friends plant at least two or three more. While I am not a seed scientist, I can say that I have never seen bluegrass germinate slower or sprout and pout for longer than I did with ProVista. If I were considering overseeding bluegrass ProVista would be the worst option I could think of.

@RFI
If you want to do something like this go with plugs.
Still insanity but just wait until your overseed fails then you go to gly your lawn and you have like 10 sq ft out of 10K that's actually PV.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL. Yeah I can see it now - "looks like the PV is doing good - time to blanket with glyph - DOH!" Sod will be the way to go once we get a bunch of exterior work done. Probably a few years out so I'll be living vicariously through this PV forum until then. Congrats and thanks to the early adopters - looking really good and performing as advertised.

 

[Thick n Dense]

@RFI, with all respect, that does not sound like a good plan. I have planted at least four (or five?) cultivars of bluegrass on my lawn and helped friends plant at least two or three more. While I am not a seed scientist, I can say that I have never seen bluegrass germinate slower or sprout and pout for longer than I did with ProVista. If I were considering overseeding bluegrass ProVista would be the worst option I could think of.

@RFI
If you want to do something like this go with plugs.
Still insanity but just wait until your overseed fails then you go to gly your lawn and you have like 10 sq ft out of 10K that's actually PV.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL. Yeah I can see it now - "looks like the PV is doing good - time to blanket with glyph - DOH!" Sod will be the way to go once we get a bunch of exterior work done. Probably a few years out so I'll be living vicariously through this PV forum until then. Congrats and thanks to the early adopters - looking really good and performing as advertised.

I think what is realistic is to get sod and cut down into strips where tou have like 2" of sod and 2" of dirt. Repeat until the yard is full.

I think youll save exactly half that you would have bought and if done in fall then itll fill in by the following fall.

That being said, not sure howd youd cut and if its even worth that 1 year delta.

 

[Thick n Dense]

Just finished a mow, the stuff is dense.
I mowed at a D on the TM then lowered to an E directly after and it didnt have trouble but it was maxed. I would think that lowering a setting should be doable after the previous setting.

It definitly is growing more with the lesser amount of day ya know entering back i to the cool season growth zone.

Ill be moving plugs this weeks and seeding a bare section

I laid some stripes finally but cant really see them all that well right now, well post some pics tomorrow.

 

[Thick n Dense]

Not compltely happy with the stripes from DIY roller. Need more pressure. I did a checker board pattern and can only see one way. Looking good nonetheless...

I'll probably try a few more photos as the sun moves overhead.

Color doesnt look the best here but I actually blms the sun. Its throwing off different hues. Look at other peoples photos, unless theyre dosing with iron and pgr it has the same white washing affect.

 

[Thick n Dense]

Pulled a bunch of weeds and decided to mulch them in ... lighting ins better now.

 

[grumpsterfire]

Looking good guys! Are you planning to follow the fall nitrogen blitz?

@Thick n Dense I'd love to see how the plugs establish and fill in.

Has anyone attempted to seed pv this season?

 

[timmybluegrass]

I am not doing the blitz, per se, as my lawn has been fully grown in since May, but I certainly push the majority of my N in the fall so I won't be all that far off the blitz's prescriptions.

I am not sure if we talked about ProVista plugs before but as I mentioned to someone earlier in this thread, these plugs work really well for things like dog spots but it is important to remember that while fancy and highly engineered this is still KBG; it isn't Bermuda, or even St. Augustine or Zoysia. If you are hoping for that kind of fill-in, you are going to be really disappointed.

@rmengel JUST put down ProVista seed in Michigan; his journal is up and running. I also FINALLY began a journal. Only six months late. :lol: It covers a lot of the same things I have discussed in this thread but is more centralized and has some pictures and information I haven't posted here.

 

[CDR]

Any new pics?

 

[timmybluegrass]

Plenty on my journal linked to above.

 

[Thick n Dense]

I dont plan on starting a journal.

It made it through the summer wihtout going dormant. A couple spots had issues but about 99% sure there grubs in those 2 areas.
Definitly a cheat code.

The last bit of my plan is to move plugs around, spray gly, fall pre M, bifen, and grub killer. and attempt to establish a patch under 100% shaded tree area using plugs which all kbg pretty much died under thus far.

I dont plan on posting much more unless something earth shattering happens as it matures, maybe an update of the shade tolerance.

In a couple of years 3-5... I plan on sand leveling and trying Reel mowing. Im sure someone will beat me to it as its really low on the list.

Looking forward to seeing the few people who got their hands on some and their experiences.

Good luck to the new comers... please post something here as I dont check the journal section ever, or at least link to your journal from this thread.

 

[rmengel]

I'm one week out from seed down and have no germination yet (as expected) but I did see some very small (1mm) sproutlings in a couple spots. Still way too early to tell if what I'm seeing is provista or just some old crap that survived the kill off.

I live near Thick n Dense, so I'm expecting a similar experience.

I'll post some night shots tonight if any more sproutlings show up

 

[Thick n Dense]

I'm one week out from seed down and have no germination yet (as expected) but I did see some very small (1mm) sproutlings in a couple spots. Still way too early to tell if what I'm seeing is provista or just some old crap that survived the kill off.

I live near Thick n Dense, so I'm expecting a similar experience.

I'll post some night shots tonight if any more sproutlings show up

When was seed down?

Yea very cool today... the weather seems to have turned. This is what happened when I did mine. Right on time, middle of Spetember the cool wave rolled in.

 

[rmengel]

@Thick n Dense my seed down was Thursday, September 2. We are at exactly 7 days.

I just went out and checked again. Maybe I'm crazy, (oh wait, I'm on this site) but I think there are considerably more sproutlings than early this morning. Looking forward to some night time photography in a few hours. I really hope this is PV and not yellow nutsedge or something like that... it seems way too early for PV to germinate

 

[rmengel]

Pics are up on my journal: https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=31770

It helps to click on the image and then zoom in once it opens in a new window. The images embedded in this site are compressed, making it hard to see the baby grass

 

[Thick n Dense]

I have a unexpected update... my lawn is loaded with rust.

My feet are covered in orange when I walk around.

I dont know how long this has been occuring as I havent been outside much. I think the only reason that I noticed was cause the cooler temps bring morning dew.

I had not put down fungicide this year and the PV has done a good job withstanding.

I know this data cant be compared but im pretty sure that with the summer we had, the grass should be dead or have taken a beating. It definitly holds its own agaisnt at least this type of fungus.

 

[Thick n Dense]

Label:



Being pre germ'd, will report on effectiveness.

 

[Garibdabal]

I am new to the forum.
Very informative thread about ProVista!

Does anyone have an idea if ProVista KBG seeds be available in Canada...or how can a Canadian order these seeds?
I did call Scotts Canada and but could not get any information so any info/clue in this regard would be great.

Thanks

 

[Thick n Dense]

@Garibdabal
Welcome !

I have no pulse on who or whats avaible.

Ive heard from members here that its in hard to get meaning there isnt much availible and prices are high.

Plus it has been a really crappy year for yield across the spectrum.

 

[Garibdabal]

@Garibdabal
Welcome !

I have no pulse on who or whats avaible.

Ive heard from members here that its in hard to get meaning there isnt much availible and prices are high.

Plus it has been a really crappy year for yield across the spectrum.

Thanks a lot @Thick n Dense

Just called Scotts Canada and was told that due to Canadian regulations ProVista is not available in Canada "yet".
However, got the impression that Scotts are in the approval process but no eta yet.