I think @osuturfman has seen it in their fields. I think it is grown near us, in southeast Indiana or south of Columbus Ohio.

I think you can only get it in sod.

 

I think @osuturfman has seen it in their fields. I think it is grown near us, in southeast Indiana or south of Columbus Ohio.

Makes sense given their headquarters is just west of Columbus in Marysville.

I think you can only get it in sod.

I've seen numerous mentions of seed being or becoming available.

 

ProVista KBG seed was used in LCN's latest video with Millennial Farmer.

 

I assumed at first they wanted to keep more profit by selling just sod.

 

KBG that will tolerate 256oz/acre glyphosate is really amazing and kind of frightening.

 

KBG that will tolerate 256oz/acre glyphosate is really amazing and kind of frightening.

It is VERY remarkable! There's still plenty of other nonselective options to kill it if and where needed, so I'm not too worried about KBG covering my property like kudzu.

 

This is interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hty2olaMoRg

 

I think forum members here "enjoy the mow". Twice a week mowing during peak growing weather conditions is not too troublesome for us.

 

I think forum members here "enjoy the mow". Twice a week mowing during peak growing weather conditions is not too troublesome for us.

Agree. I'm interested for self-repairing and glyphosate resistant good looking grass. Though my TTTF in its happiest state of existence will grow 1" or more in 24 hours. Last spring I once mowed 5 times in 7 days, and it NEEDED it every time. I consider that a little much to still have fun at it..

 

Apparently it's not for sale yet on the West Coast. Pretty interested in the seed myself, all the features are desirable. I'm curious how it tolerates stress and disease compared to modern cultivars.

 

I'm looking at the PDF on my phone. Unless I am looking at it wrongs, looks pretty wide no ?

 

So what happens when we decide we don't like the color or disease resistance or whatever other trait we use to rationalize yet another reno?

Or is there a different herbicide that will become a substitute killswitch for this the way glypho is typically used?

 

I just received a reply email from Scotts about its heat and drought tolerance:

Doug,
This will perform similar to other Kentucky Bluegrasses in regards to heat and dry weather. Having access to irrigation can definitely help it stay green through the summer.

 

I just received a reply email from Scotts about its heat and drought tolerance:

Doug,
This will perform similar to other Kentucky Bluegrasses in regards to heat and dry weather. Having access to irrigation can definitely help it stay green through the summer.

Interesting that it can take an absolute pounding with glyphosate but doesn't seem to have much drought resistance,according to that response

 

It's much easier to select for one desirable trait than several. I'm sure drought tolerance will come along after glyphosate tolerance in KBG is more widespread.

 

KBG that will tolerate 256oz/acre glyphosate is really amazing and kind of frightening.

So, how do you kill it? They must explain how to do so if needed.

Also, I doubt (and hope) this doesn't get put into any of their box store mixes.

 

Other thing is, I would expect glyphosate tolerant KBG will naturally increase the incidence of glyphosate-tolerant Poa Trivialis if used a lot alongside it...so be careful what you wish for!

 

KBG that will tolerate 256oz/acre glyphosate is really amazing and kind of frightening.

So, how do you kill it? They must explain how to do so if needed.

I'm sure a nice spritz of household white vinegar would kill it, or some dog pee, or any of the hundreds of other things that will kill your grass. It's just that glypho won't work on this one.

 

Is that roughly 1.9 oz per 300sqft tolerance or is my math off?

 

I'll come out of the closet and state that I was able to get my hands on some Provista KBG seed.

Going down this weekend so I have nothing to report on it.

The Scott's guys said it's officially for sale but only direct from them.

If you're interested stay consistent with the form on their site.

Why I'm not concerned with Triv the feeling is priceless

 

This is a pretty interesting development, especially for those of us in Canada. We have glypho, 24d, dicamba and mecacrop but thats about it that is available to the average consumer without going cross border. I am imagining that we could get excellent poa a control in this😁

But yes, the low mowing frequency isn't exciting. Maybe that could change with lots of N though.

 

For those wondering how to kill this grass clethodim would be a good option.

 

This is a pretty interesting development, especially for those of us in Canada. We have glypho, 24d, dicamba and mecacrop but thats about it that is available to the average consumer without going cross border. I am imagining that we could get excellent poa a control in this😁

But yes, the low mowing frequency isn't exciting. Maybe that could change with lots of N though.

Not in Ontario! We have to order from Seed World and pay exorbitant shipping costs and sometimes duties/taxes.

 

I've continued my email conversation with Ben B@Scotts asking how I can get some to try an overseed or a reno test patch of the acre+ I care for. He just replied:

Hey Doug,
We don't have it set up for sale through our website yet, but I can place an order for you. The current cost is $20 per pound before tax. We currently only have 50# bags available but should have 10# bags become available around mid-September.

Yikes! Dropping a grand to test in my climate is a STEEP test, $200 isn't much better. I'd go in for a pound or two so I can make a nice little 10' test patch off behind my yard in what is currently pasture grass (probably KY-31). If I wanted to convert I'd probably overseed my whole TTTF acreish area with one 50# bag the first fall, and see what comes up, competes well with the fescue, and spreads over the year. If I end up with a good mix I'd glypho the whole thing and toss another 50# the next fall to finish it off.

 

I've continued my email conversation with Ben B@Scotts asking how I can get some to try an overseed or a reno test patch of the acre+ I care for. He just replied:

Hey Doug,
We don't have it set up for sale through our website yet, but I can place an order for you. The current cost is $20 per pound before tax. We currently only have 50# bags available but should have 10# bags become available around mid-September.

Yikes! Dropping a grand to test in my climate is a STEEP test, $200 isn't much better. I'd go in for a pound or two so I can make a nice little 10' test patch off behind my yard in what is currently pasture grass (probably KY-31). If I wanted to convert I'd probably overseed my whole TTTF acreish area with one 50# bag the first fall, and see what comes up, competes well with the fescue, and spreads over the year. If I end up with a good mix I'd glypho the whole thing and toss another 50# the next fall to finish it off.

50# bag for 1K$ is steep... Their recommended seeding rate is 2# per 1K which is a little bit less than what kbg typically is.

Also, I bet you can go lighter and allow it to spread while using glyphosate to hold off competition while it fills in.