[Thick n Dense]

Imadiclorpid (butchered it) is the curative right ?

I could theoritcally put this down twice a year and avoid using preventitive all together right?

 

[Rucraz2]

Question for anyone. 3 yrs ago our neighborhood had a huge grub issue and foxes destroyed a majority of people's yards. Mine wasn't too bad as I hadn't done any preventative but got something down immediately and saved mine. Ever since I have I have sprayed Imidacloprid end of June which has worked great the previous years. I have been seeing little spots where animals are digging. Not tearing up the yard, but noticeable spots. I know we have a ton of Beatles this yr in the neighborhood. I haven't seen any grubs, but when I am seeing animals digging , does that mean they are possibly there?? My yard is the only green one on our street, but havent seen any other damage in others either? But in previous yrs it was mostly in the back yards.

 

[Thick n Dense]

Question for anyone. 3 yrs ago our neighborhood had a huge grub issue and foxes destroyed a majority of people's yards. Mine wasn't too bad as I hadn't done any preventative but got something down immediately and saved mine. Ever since I have I have sprayed Imidacloprid end of June which has worked great the previous years. I have been seeing little spots where animals are digging. Not tearing up the yard, but noticeable spots. I know we have a ton of Beatles this yr in the neighborhood. I haven't seen any grubs, but when I am seeing animals digging , does that mean they are possibly there?? My yard is the only green one on our street, but havent seen any other damage in others either? But in previous yrs it was mostly in the back yards.

Maybe the grubs are dead but there so the animals go for them

 

[Bombers]

I applied .6oz of imidacloprid in early May but this past weekend when I pumped my septic I had 8-12 grubs under the turf above my lid. I was kind of surprised but I have been struggling with other areas of the turf darkening like they are suffering drought stress. I picked up a bag of Bayer 24 hour (Dylox) and plan to spread it tonight and irrigate the following morning and I am due anyways.

There are som many conflicting points on when to apply imidacloprid for proper coverage. I think @Mightyquinn is on to something with the partial apps. My struggle is that the label states apply .6 oz/k for grubs and maximum annual rate is also .6 oz/k. This only leads me back to the conflicting data regarding the application timing.

You are correct in what the label says for Imidacloprid but another member reached out to the manufacturer and asked them about that and said it wouldn't really do any damage doing what I do. I will try and find it as I think it's on here somewhere.

I have been applying it every 3 months for years now with no ill effects that I know of.

Do you split that .6oz/k to .15oz every 3 months or do you apply .6 oz every time?

 

[Mightyquinn]

I apply .6oz/M every 3 months

 

[SweLawn]

Anyone know if Pyrinex (chlorpyrifos) is safe for grass seeds , kbg ?

 

[Frankzzz]

Imadiclorpid (butchered it) is the curative right ?

I could theoritcally put this down twice a year and avoid using preventitive all together right?

Imidacloprid and chlorantraniliprole are preventive.
Dylox (trichlorfon) and Sevin (carbaryl) are curative.
How to choose and when to apply grub control products for your lawn.

 

[Frankzzz]

Sevin Lawn Insect Granules, as mentioned in the MSU article, no longer contains Carbaryl.
They even changed the name slightly, to Sevin Insect Killer Lawn Granules, and it now contains Zeta-Cypermethrin and Bifenthrin, but no more carbaryl.
https://www.gardentech.com/products/sevin/sevin-lawn-insect-granules
None of their sprays/concentrates contain carbaryl anymore, either.

 

[Frankzzz]

For everyone who uses the MSU - Michigan State University article for guidance -
"How to choose and when to apply grub control products for your lawn."
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/how_to_choose_and_when_to_apply_grub_control_products_for_your_lawn

I emailed the author of the article (a doctor and professor of entomology at MSU) and asked him about the recommended dates of applications. He said those recommended dates in the article are for the Michigan area, so everyone needs to adjust the dates according to their own particular area of the country. I specifically asked him about the Southeast US, such as Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and the Carolinas. He said it would range from about 4 weeks earlier [than the dates in the article] for south Georgia to about 3 weeks earlier for the Carolinas. Everyone should check with their own local Extension office for more specific timing for their area.

I also asked about Sevin and carbaryl, and he said he would be updating the article to show under the Available Curative Products that the Sevin Lawn Insect Granules no longer contains carbaryl.

 

[SodFace]

Nice work @Frankzzz - hope you mentioned we're big fans of his article here

 

[Bombers]

Amazon and Walmart have 14.35-Lb Scotts GrubEx1 Season Long Grub Killer (5000 sq. ft.) on sale for $15

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050DV4ZW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_EYM4T1QREKPY8XGYTMTP?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Scotts-Grub-Ex-Season-Long-Grub-Killer/17190373

Quoted from Hot Deals thread. Jump on it fellas.

 

[cldrunner]

I ended up having a small area of White Grubs in my front yard. I use Bifen(not labeled for Grubs)every few months and Imidacloprid a few months ago. @Greendoc reccommeded in a post I can not find now to use Dylox for curative control.

I am buying some Dylox but also found the Bioadvanced 24 Hour Grub Killer Plus Granules have the same active ingredient
Trichlorfon..

If you have a smaller lawn the 10lb bag covers 5K.
https://www.bioadvanced.com/products/lawn-care/24-hour-grub-killer-plus-i

I made all the classic rookie mistakes. We have not had much rain this summer so when I first saw the area I though it was not getting enough water. I have had Take all Patch in the past so I threw down some azoxystrobin and propiconazole to try and help. Finally got down on my hands and knees and the grass pulled right up in that area and those little white monsters were feasting on my roots.

 

[Jbird95]

@cldrunner
FYI- Grubex1 currently 50% off on Amazon. 3 bag limit. 1 bag covers 5K. This is the preventive stuff.

 

[stuartmccall]

Correctly identifying the grubs present should help with better timing for control. There is a nice grub ID chart at http://www.gilbasolutions.com/turf-pest-management.html
I'm not sure how applicable this is for the US but it's perfect for Australia

 

[Mewwwda]

Curious on what thoughts are on spraying Acelepryn vs Grubex?

My lawn is 17k and will need 2 big bags of Grubex which will come out to about $85 on sale. If I'm reading the Acelepryn label correctly, the rate for grubs is .18-.37oz/k. I could not even spray at the high rate and cover my entire yard with 1 bottle. The 4 oz bottle is $116. The only larger bottle I can find is over $1k so that's out of the question.

I'm thinking I will just go with 2 bags of Grubex, but I just wanted to know if there was a reason I should go with Acelepryn instead. What do others use that have similar sized lawns?

 

[Bombers]

Curious on what thoughts are on spraying Acelepryn vs Grubex?

My lawn is 17k and will need 2 big bags of Grubex which will come out to about $85 on sale. If I'm reading the Acelepryn label correctly, the rate for grubs is .18-.37oz/k. I could not even spray at the high rate and cover my entire yard with 1 bottle. The 4 oz bottle is $116. The only larger bottle I can find is over $1k so that's out of the question.

I'm thinking I will just go with 2 bags of Grubex, but I just wanted to know if there was a reason I should go with Acelepryn instead. What do others use that have similar sized lawns?

Always gotta search for cheaper generics/alternative.

34 oz for $151 before tax here.
https://winproonline.com/products/altrisettermiticide?variant=21590747447376&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

 

[Mewwwda]

Is there any reason that it is "better" to spray this vs Grubex? Or is this just a matter of this being a generic product and probably getting better coverage with liquid?

Also, I've never heard of this website, anyone have experience with them?

 

[mjh648]

Is there any reason that it is "better" to spray this vs Grubex? Or is this just a matter of this being a generic product and probably getting better coverage with liquid?

Also, I've never heard of this website, anyone have experience with them?

it's generally cheaper to spray. usually takes more time though so just need to be aware of that.

 

[ionicatoms]

it's generally cheaper to spray. usually takes more time though so just need to be aware of that.

I would add a caveat that if I can spray multiple products at the same time, it generally saves time over the alternative of applying several rounds of granular. That being said, I decided to go with GrubEx this year anyway. :nod:

 

[Bombers]

Is there any reason that it is "better" to spray this vs Grubex? Or is this just a matter of this being a generic product and probably getting better coverage with liquid?

Also, I've never heard of this website, anyone have experience with them?

They seem to be legit. Their name sounds familiar. I looked at their socials and they seem to be well-established with reps all around the country.

Generally liquid is cheaper per app, better coverage, can be mixed with other chemicals, takes up less storage space. The bigger your real estate, the more sense it makes to spray and your yard size is pretty decent. However, if you don't have a big sprayer or want to make the investment, granular is fine to work with while paying more per app. At the end of the day, do what you like and makes you happy.