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This technique is called Deny, Minimize, and Blame.

We didn't dump rocks
Well we dumped a few rocks
Yeah we dumped a lot of rocks, but you asked us to

Next is Obfuscate and Gaslight, so expect that next.

Revising their story is obfuscate. Next is going to be "we didn't even deliver this material"
 
Discussion starter · #42 ·
TJ_FortWorth said:
As another poster mentioned, BBB is somewhat outdated and few use it during purchasing. However, the average user looks at Google reviews. I would post your review of this company there with a star rating. I am not suggesting anything but, "neighbors" can post a review as well that did not actually use the service.

Best of luck, that is a gut punch.
@TJ_FortWorth BTW thanks neighbor ;)
 
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SCGrassMan said:
This technique is called Deny, Minimize, and Blame.

We didn't dump rocks
Well we dumped a few rocks
Yeah we dumped a lot of rocks, but you asked us to

Next is Obfuscate and Gaslight, so expect that next.

Revising their story is obfuscate. Next is going to be "we didn't even deliver this material"
@SCGrassMan Dude, do you have a crystal ball? Check out the email copied into an earlier comment. First they said they warned me not to put the material down and now they are saying it was all sand clumps and not any rocks. When I said I was confused by the different position she said I was deceitful and if I had just tried to work with them they would have helped me. Seems like a hollow offer considering they never once offered to come help pick up or discuss any kind of resolution until she basically told me to pack "Rocky sand" pun intended.
 
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daganh62 said:
I hope you get everything you go for in court and then some.
I appreciate the sentiment but i really hope they come to their senses when they get served the notice. I would rather not take a day off to argue over rocks in a yard. The whole thing just seems ridiculous
 
Tx_LawnNerd said:
SCGrassMan said:
This technique is called Deny, Minimize, and Blame.

We didn't dump rocks
Well we dumped a few rocks
Yeah we dumped a lot of rocks, but you asked us to

Next is Obfuscate and Gaslight, so expect that next.

Revising their story is obfuscate. Next is going to be "we didn't even deliver this material"
@SCGrassMan Dude, do you have a crystal ball? Check out the email copied into an earlier comment. First they said they warned me not to put the material down and now they are saying it was all sand clumps and not any rocks. When I said I was confused by the different position she said I was deceitful and if I had just tried to work with them they would have helped me. Seems like a hollow offer considering they never once offered to come help pick up or discuss any kind of resolution until she basically told me to pack "Rocky sand" pun intended.
Not a crystal ball. Sadly, these are common tactics of crooks and abusers of all kinds.

Before too long, you're going to start questioning your own sanity (the gaslighting part)

"Wait maybe both those guys DID tell me not to put it down and it was full of rocks… why else would they be so insistent?"
 
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Passat774 said:
Have you watered it in and seen if the clumps have lessened?
There were sand clumps and yes those were either pulverized by my dethatcher or were eliminated by rain/water. However, we have received almost 12 in of rain since the application and the rain started the day after. After having all the rain I am still finding a high amount of rocks in the backyard and occasionally in the front. The back is mowed higher and is a larger area so I haven't had enough time to get as through with it as I have with the front. Needless to say, it will be a while before I can reel mow in the backyard.
 
If they had a clue, they would have sent in a couple guys with rubber-paddled power sweeps (as mentioned previously) and re-applied a light top-dressing afterwards, with clean material hopefully. And that would have been a satisfactory resolution for all.

Having a power sweep around is a great thing for picking up aeration cores too.
 
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@Never Winter Farms Went to court Tuesday and the judge ruled in my favor.

@MasterMech I asked multiple times for them to come out and they said "We are really busy and we don't know when we can come out but it will probably be longer than a week". If they had made any attempt like you suggested I would have been very satisfied and not posted anything about it. As a small business owner myself I try not to say anything if I dont have something nice to say. I put a lot of thought into whether or not I should make the original post.

@DSchlauch We had our court date and they continued to say no rocks just sand clumps. I had brought in a 1 gal bag of rocks that were collected from their "sand" with me. He held the bag up and said do you think there are sand clumps in this bag? They said no but we don't know where those rocks came from (suggesting I was lying). The judge said well they are covered in sand and look like the rocks in the pictures that were taken shortly after you left the property and you agree the photos he presented are consistent with how you left his yard. He also questioned why at no point they tried to go back out to the property to reveiw my claims and appeared aggitated by their response that they were busy. For my first time in court I found it very nerve racking but theraputic to finally have a 3rd party, who was presented with both sides of the story, feel as though they were in the wrong and confirm there were rocks that were infact broadcast on my lawn.
 
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@Never Winter Farms The judgment was for the full cost of services and legal fees. No award was made for the cost to remediate since I did the work myself. That being said, at this point if Discover accepts the judgment as evidence that my dispute is valid (and I expect they would) then Purple Care owes me 124.50 for the legal fees since the funds have been on hold with Discover. Not sure I will waste my time or the courts after that small amount but I guess it depends on any further communications I have with them. I will give them till the end of August and then if they haven't sent payment of the outstanding balance I will send an invoice.
 
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@TJ_FortWorth You should see their comment on my Google review. They took a little different tone with someone who actually held them accountable then the bullying they do with most of their clients. I am not normally someone with a bone to pick and actually pride myself on trying to be fair and easy to work with even when things aren't going smoothly. This one got under my skin and I take a little bit of satisfaction in knowing I knocked the wind out of their usually insulting sails.
 
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