Question Number One: I'm dealing with what looks to be crabgrass or poa annua in the backyard. Based on my read of some other threads I am going to laying down some prodiamine (as general pre emergent) and then hitting it with some simazine, certainty, and / or negate (unsure of which products but they are all on order).
Taking any other advice but it sounds like this is best plan of action to rid of this issue.

 

Question Two: as I am switching this year from milo granulated with rotary spreader and rotary mower to liquid fertilization with baroness reel mower does anyone have any recommendations/ spray plan / liquid fertilizer once green up starts in the next couple of weeks?

 

Beautiful home! You've done a great job turning it around.

That's Poa A. you are dealing with in the backyard. You could get your pre-em down and just let it die off in the summer or spray it out with the Negate. I don't think the Certainty will be very effective against it but Certainty is a great product to have around especially as the weather gets hot.

As far as fertilizers, you will want to get a soil test to figure out what is needed. Short of that I would just use a balanced fertilizer like a 10-10-10. SiteOne has a 20-20-20 that is dissolvable and can be sprayed. Your soil is quite different up there than down here so hopefully some of the Atlanta Zoysia guys can speak up regarding fertilizer.

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.

 

Beautiful home!

Great job on the front lawn!

 

@Redtwin Certainty is labeled for use against poa. Are you unsure about Certainty's efficacy due to the time of year (i.e. it needs heat to work best like Celsius)? I don't have Certainty so I don't know.

Oh and @glinget that is a beautiful transformation you've made. My goal is to make my zoysia look as good as yours this year.

 

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.
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Thanks @Redtwin
I just had my soil test done and I am a little low on Phosphorus so the recommendation from UGA was to go with a 15-0-15 on mine. I will find something comparable to those numbers and roll with that for now. I definitely know that Zeon does not need a lot of nitrogen so I would stay away from any of the higher rate ferts - for me it did nothing but spark dollar spot last year. The year before when I had the sod laid I didnt put any fertilizer on it at all and it was super green with no disease issues whatsoever. I will probably only apply the 15-0-15 3 times this year. May, late June and mid August or something along those lines.

 

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.

Thanks @Redtwin
I just had my soil test done and I am a little low on Phosphorus so the recommendation from UGA was to go with a 15-0-15 on mine. I will find something comparable to those numbers and roll with that for now. I definitely know that Zeon does not need a lot of nitrogen so I would stay away from any of the higher rate ferts - for me it did nothing but spark dollar spot last year. The year before when I had the sod laid I didnt put any fertilizer on it at all and it was super green with no disease issues whatsoever. I will probably only apply the 15-0-15 3 times this year. May, late June and mid August or something along those lines.
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I am awaiting my UGA soil test results now ... but am planning to core aerate and USGA spec sand level this weekend. I have seen a lot of folks that mix in fert After the aeration and before the sand. Should I grab a bag of milorganite (or something else) to help push some growth while stressing the lawn with sand?im asking mostly because I am awaiting my soil results and have seen a weak/ slow green up and don't want to over stress the lawn ...

 

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.

Thanks @Redtwin
I just had my soil test done and I am a little low on Phosphorus so the recommendation from UGA was to go with a 15-0-15 on mine. I will find something comparable to those numbers and roll with that for now. I definitely know that Zeon does not need a lot of nitrogen so I would stay away from any of the higher rate ferts - for me it did nothing but spark dollar spot last year. The year before when I had the sod laid I didnt put any fertilizer on it at all and it was super green with no disease issues whatsoever. I will probably only apply the 15-0-15 3 times this year. May, late June and mid August or something along those lines.

I am awaiting my UGA soil test results now ... but am planning to core aerate and USGA spec sand level this weekend. I have seen a lot of folks that mix in fert After the aeration and before the sand. Should I grab a bag of milorganite (or something else) to help push some growth while stressing the lawn with sand?im asking mostly because I am awaiting my soil results and have seen a weak/ slow green up and don't want to over stress the lawn ...
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Skip the milorganite and get a fast release fert. It's cheaper and better.

Go find a 34-0-0 to toss down during the level.

 

Your zeon is surely green now but it's not really going to grow much in these temps and therefore
I'd just wait for your results ....but I'd guess you'll be adding P&K....but if you want to 'jump it', fast release.

Our yard sizes (smaller side) I don't know that it's worth the preEm battle. Good stuff (not barricade) is sold in size, challenges the diy (time equip supplies) vs hiring. You just have know they are not using mediocre stuff

 

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.

Thanks @Redtwin
I just had my soil test done and I am a little low on Phosphorus so the recommendation from UGA was to go with a 15-0-15 on mine. I will find something comparable to those numbers and roll with that for now. I definitely know that Zeon does not need a lot of nitrogen so I would stay away from any of the higher rate ferts - for me it did nothing but spark dollar spot last year. The year before when I had the sod laid I didnt put any fertilizer on it at all and it was super green with no disease issues whatsoever. I will probably only apply the 15-0-15 3 times this year. May, late June and mid August or something along those lines.

I am awaiting my UGA soil test results now ... but am planning to core aerate and USGA spec sand level this weekend. I have seen a lot of folks that mix in fert After the aeration and before the sand. Should I grab a bag of milorganite (or something else) to help push some growth while stressing the lawn with sand?im asking mostly because I am awaiting my soil results and have seen a weak/ slow green up and don't want to over stress the lawn ...
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If it were me I would wait just a few more weeks for the aerating and sanding. My lawn is not growing strong either just yet and ideally you want to wait until its growing strong to aerate and sand, plus it's still a little early to be throwing down fertilizer on Zeon. I've dealt with the fungus issues in the past and my plan is to wait until mid May before I do my 1st app of fert and even then it is going to be very low dose.

If you do decide to go ahead and do it now I dont think you are going to hurt anything at all, but it might take a little longer to break through the sand completely. A mild fert will work such as the milorganite. Good luck!

 

Ditto on what @ZeonJNix said about waiting. I plan to aerate and top dress as well but won't do so until it's growing at full steam. I'm guessing mid to late May as well since it's been a pretty slow start this April. Generally I'll give it 0.1N once I get that full green up and then a couple weeks later I'll aerate and give it another 0.1N.

 

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If it were me I would wait just a few more weeks for the aerating and sanding. My lawn is not growing strong either just yet and ideally you want to wait until its growing strong to aerate and sand, plus it's still a little early to be throwing down fertilizer on Zeon. I've dealt with the fungus issues in the past and my plan is to wait until mid May before I do my 1st app of fert and even then it is going to be very low dose.

If you do decide to go ahead and do it now I dont think you are going to hurt anything at all, but it might take a little longer to break through the sand completely. A mild fert will work such as the milorganite. Good luck!
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ha - i was using your 2020 lawn journal as a reference guide to timing of sanding - looked like you did in first/second week of April.

everything is on order, including labor, to help. i think I am going to proceed this weekend and hope for the best and know that it might not push through the sand as fast which will require some patience.

 

Check out @ZeonJNix journals at https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=15650 and https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=25489&p=361654#p361654.

Thanks @Redtwin
I just had my soil test done and I am a little low on Phosphorus so the recommendation from UGA was to go with a 15-0-15 on mine. I will find something comparable to those numbers and roll with that for now. I definitely know that Zeon does not need a lot of nitrogen so I would stay away from any of the higher rate ferts - for me it did nothing but spark dollar spot last year. The year before when I had the sod laid I didnt put any fertilizer on it at all and it was super green with no disease issues whatsoever. I will probably only apply the 15-0-15 3 times this year. May, late June and mid August or something along those lines.
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Just curious for my own learning...isn't phosphorus the middle value in the 15-0-15? If so if you're low, I would think they would recommend a fert with phosphorus?

 

@marcjw good catch. I meant to say Potassium was low

@glinget haha. Do as I say, not as I do!! j/k I did do it at this time last year, but after lots of reading on Zeon over the last year and battling with large patch I decided my best route would be to wait a little later this year. You should be fine doing it now!

 

in my experience, my zeon really starts growing when its gets hot in late may and early June. Mine is growing now (in April), but more sleepy and waking up. I can go two weeks without mowing and its only grown an inch. I sanded in April a year ago and it took about three weeks to see no sand. I've done it in June and it took a week.

 

Well. Let's see how this goes!!!!

 

Holy heavy, @glinget lol excited to see the bound back. Following this thread as a member of club Zeon

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

Looking good! Who did you buy your sand from and were you happy with the quality? I plan to level mine sometime next month and haven't decided on a supplier yet.

Also, what was your HOC when you threw the sand down?

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

Looking good! Who did you buy your sand from and were you happy with the quality? I plan to level mine sometime next month and haven't decided on a supplier yet.

Also, what was your HOC when you threw the sand down?

River sand INC

They were great I got 3 tons delivered for around $350-400. It was pricey because I got USGA spec golf course sand which was beyond great and easy to spread. HOC was .5"

 

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

Looking good! Who did you buy your sand from and were you happy with the quality? I plan to level mine sometime next month and haven't decided on a supplier yet.

Also, what was your HOC when you threw the sand down?

River sand INC

They were great I got 3 tons delivered for around $350-400. It was pricey because I got USGA spec golf course sand which was beyond great and easy to spread. HOC was .5"

Nice. Did you have any trouble working the sand down or was .5" plenty low? I really don't want to scalp mine again so hoping 3/4" will be ok.

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

Jealous of that yard size.

Given that, I'd relax.....we don't want to see a fungal outbreak with all that moisture. Look fwd to June pics.

Decatur?

 

Water it in. I'm dry, surely you are too. However, nothing better than natural rainfall for pushing in the sand.

Three days of watering with irrigation, mowed over wet sand yesterday, and today I took the hose out and spent an hour on the front lawn. Looking good I think!

Jealous of that yard size.

Given that, I'd relax.....we don't want to see a fungal outbreak with all that moisture. Look fwd to June pics.

Decatur?

Buckhead

 

Ok so soul results are in and nothing alarming.