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What to buy for Lawn Renovation?

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#1 ·
I recently bought a new house the yard is trash and the grading is messed up. Based on a few recommendations we are having the front and back yard regraded and leveled in the next couple of weeks. I decided to do the seeding myself as I enjoyed renovating the yard at my old house. I'd like to keep the total cost of seed, fertilizer, tools, etc, to under $500 for 5000sqft but I'm not sure where I should spend more or where to go cheap. For example, more cheap seed or less better seed, starter fertilizer vs soil amendments, peat moss or similar to keep things wet and from washing out. I'm not sure how to strike the right balance and get the best results on my budget.

The details on my yard are as follows:

The front yard gets direct sun for 4-6 hours in the morning / early afternoon, but is shaded by a large tree most of the day. The contractor will be adding several inches of topsoil to bring the yard up to the correct level.

The back gets 8-10 hours of direct sun from mid-day and into the evening. Since the backyard will have minimal soil added I sent off a soil sample today to get a better idea of what amendments I might need.

There is no irrigation system, but I do have a few impact sprinklers and a timer that I used when over seeding at my old house.​

I would like to go mostly bluegrass, but I'm not sure that's the right choice for my situation / budget. I've seen that TTTF is cheaper and seems to be common for my area, but my old house had several patches of tall fescue where the previous owner had seeded after removing some trees and I absolutely hated it.

I've watched hours of YouTube videos and read a couple of guides, including the cool season renovation guide on here, so I know that how pretty well, but I could use some advice on what seed & products to buy to get the best results on my budget.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 
#3 ·
I think seed is perhaps the only place where I would not compromise. It doesn't have to be gold tag but as long as its 0.0% weed and other crop I would be happy using it. Spend the money there. It wont be much.

For 5k you need 10-15 pounds of bluegrass seed or 40lbs info TTTF. You will see the price is closer than you think. It depends on what you like.

The other major cost is tenacity but you can split with someone to decrease cost. Starter fertilizers are not expensive especially straight fertilizers. Your tenacity will be your preemergent.

Peat moss bills can go astronomical depending on how you spread it cost more than the seed but only a light covering is needed.
 
#4 ·
When do you plan on seeding? I think a lot of people make the mistake of seeding too late when they hear the word Fall. Late Summer is likely more accurate for the Northeast and much of the midwest. I would try to get your seed down before end of August, if possible, especially if planting KBG.

*edit* for my terrible spelling and grammar
 
#6 ·
Harts said:
When do you plan on seeding? I think a lot of people make the mistake of seeding too late when they here the word Fall. Late Summer is likely more accurate for the Northeast and much of the midwest. I would try to get your seed down before end of August, if possible, especially is plant KBG.
EXACTLY,

I see people all over the facebook pages in michigan and other NE locations that are waiting until the end of september to drop seed. I cringe, because our first frost date is early october usually. It will be very hard for an overseed that started late september to be established by then end of october without getting hit with a frost
 
#7 ·
I will be seeding on Sept 3rd or 4th. I know it's later than ideal, but I'll need to put something down. I'm leaning towards something like this or this, and then over seeding with more bluegrass next spring and again in late summer. Our first frost is normally mid October, so I would have about 6 weeks.

I might rent a peat moss spreader, but I have a sprayer, rake, and broadcast spreader.

Would it be worth it to get something like Soil Moist Seed Coat or Hydretain to help keep the seed wet or is peat moss / ez-straw plenty?
 
#8 ·
Don't get the second one. Has chewings and red fescue. Not great grass choices.

First one will be fine. I wouldn't overseed with KBG. Germination time is too long and the existing grass out competes the new seedlings.

Timing is what it is. Totally understand.
 
#11 ·
@gm560 After looking through a few dozen mixes from different companies, those ones had great prices, some KBG, and no Tall Fescue. All of which appealed to me. Since my front yard is shaded for most of the day, I thought a sun & shade mix would make things easier, and all of them that I have seen have some type of Fescue in them. Here are a couple others that I looked at for my front yard: SeedSuperStore, Hancock, Natureseed

Is there something better I should be looking for?
 
#12 ·
Do they give you an analysis on those mixes? I couldn't find one, but if there's any weed seed or "other crop" or noxious weed seed... you're going to spend more money on post emergent control of those weeds than just ponying up for a 0% mix. I would spend a good amount of your budget on seed and based on your location you have a lot of options. For the front yard you have just enough sunlight make most grass work. Almost any of the GCI Turf blends will work except the Bermuda Heat Wave. If you don't like TTTF, KBG is going to be your ticket, but I think a mix with Mazama *** will work well, especially in the front yard. If it were my $500 to spend, my first purchase would be this.

What I like about this mix is the Mazama. In the front lawn, it's going to thrive in the shade and take over where the others might fall short. The fine fescue will also do well there. For the backyard it's still going to do well, but the PRG is going to give you rapid germination and then the KBGs will takeover. The fine fescue won't succeed as much back there, but those KBG blends are going to thrive.