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thelawnnoob said:
@Monocot Master No sir. The termite service man told me that the Termidor treatment would cost $700 - unless termites were found near the foundation in which case they do it for free.
Can I do something to dissuade termites if they ever dig their way near the house? My understanding is that I can only control what's going on around the perimeter of the house and not underneath the foundation.
Got to love the irony. "it'll cost you $700 as a preventative, but once you have an actual problem and the cost is 5x higher, we'll do it for free"
 
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Hi @440mag, the 95s are hitting us too :( . Just as I write this, there's a small surprise downpour which will hopefully help.
Please accept my sincere apologies for bugging you with this for so long. To be honest, analysis paralysis is probably the root cause which is being topped off by fear from what the estimators tell me about termite stuff. Primarily because I know so very little about termite damage

Is there a difference in affect from using Termidor HE vs Termidor 80WG?

I took quotes from the pest control companies near my area - I'm unsure if I can name them in this forum so haven't included their names but I am willing to if I can. I called the first 4 names after hitting "termite treatment near me" in Google.com.

Strangely enough, none of my neighbors even thought about termite control (they just use the simple advanced termite bait stations) yet except for one guy who basically just did the Termidor SC guide on DMO (6" by 6" trench all around) but did not drill concrete anywhere.

If you know people in Fulton/Forsyth county that got a pro to get this done "the right way" where they are confident enough to not get into insurance talk for their work, can you please send me the pro's contact (here or PM)?

Question about the part you mentioned about "After pros leave" - is that done every year starting right after the work was done or starting after year 5?
 
For heavens sake NOOOOOO "apology" (or even explanation) necessary. I'm return I apologize for the "War and Peace" length posts. (Just I have some remote stories to tell I guess)

LOL, wanna talk about paralysis by analysis? It's taken me YEARS to simply pull the intake line to our irrigation system up out of the lake and repair it. Years!!!!!

I will come back here asap but just want to say the "after the pros left" starts(ed) a year or two after ON THE EXTERIOR only. The way a bug pro whom we have become close friends with explained it to me the active ingredients in termiticides are pretty much long lasting - EXCEPT when diluted by water and namely heavy rains etc that build up along one's foundation. For instance, he told me to never let the Northwest corner of our house ever go more than 12 months without spraying termiticide up against the wall and soil there as that portion of our foundation stays wet in the exterior. Hope that makes sense.

Under slab is good to go for 10 years (if done right) and unless there is a lot of water going under slab.
 
Okay so, Termidor HE is just BASF taking advantage of Advanced Polymer Technology (AVP) essentially "coating" the active ingredient molecules so they migrate further through soil before breaking down. (Just think of the coating put on pills we take so they can be time-released, etc.)

Here is a video - along with a bunch of other videos - you should watch:


What is the difference between Termidor 80 WG and Termidor SC?

https://www.domyown.com/what-is-the-difference-between-termidor-80-wg-and-termidor-sc-qa-120.html

"Both Termidor 80 WG and Termidor SC when mixed with water, make the same type of solution.
The "WG" in Termidor 80 WG stand for wettable granule.
The "SC" in Termidor SC stands for suspended concentrate.
They are just different formulations of the same product.
The Termidor 80 WG is easier for professional termite control operators to carry in their trucks, and it is easier to mix.
However, Termidor 80 WG cannot be sold to homeowners, it can only be sold to licensed professionals.
Only the Termidor SC in the 20 oz bottle can be sold to homeowners for personal use.

NO need to "name names" as far as contractors.

BIGGEST QUESTION IS HOPEFULLY YOU ARE NOT DEALING ANY LONGER WITH THE PEOPLE you describe in your first post this thread , that told you, well, these clowns:

thelawnnoob said:
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I pay a service company for termite protection - they placed baits and all around the house - who came by, had a look and basically said "that's nature, this is their home, let us know if they hit the house and we will come take care of it". Need to mention, the lot is backed by woods.
If you are still in communication with ^those^ clowns please let me know , will you?

Here's who my sister used and I was surprised she actually found out about them from her HOA who it turns out was somewhat aware of who was worth their salt and who was not as neighbors talk to neighbors, etc., etc.:

Their page describing their oo-la-la "high precision injection" process ("Whatever, just get the Termidor where I need it, dudes!l): https://allexterminatingga.com/services/termidor-termite-treatment/

Their page describing their "custom hole repair" (again, "Whatever, I ain't paying you extra to custom match mortar you use to plug 1/2" holes - just plug em with whatever you have on the truck OR BETTER YET, I'll run down to ACE and buy the mortar I want you to use, how bout that?":
https://allexterminatingga.com/services/custom-hole-repair/

ARE YOU SEEING THE PATTERN YET?

WHY ONLY SELL A CUSTOMER A TERMIDOR TREATMENT WHEN YOU CAN ALSO SELL, PRESSURE, SALES PITCH, CAJOLE OR WEAR THEM DOWN TO ALSO FORKING MORE MONEY OVER FOR
:

1) "Insurance" (I'd still be laughing my *ss over "insurance" from a termite guy, if it weren't so sad knowing there ARE those $ucker$ out there … :roll: )

2) "Annual comebacks" ("Wait a minute, if this stuff is guaranteed for 10 years, why would I even need to pay you to come back - you should come back for free if it's guaranteed, right? - let alone "buy" insurance from you?"

3) "Custom color matched mortar" :roll:

My sister jumped in my you-know-what demanding, "Tell this guy in Atlanta to go to DoMyOwn or DoYourOwn!!!!!"

I explained your situation to her and how you need the concrete slab treatments done.

She also pointed out:

1) "A big issue now is skilled employee shortages.
Company that was good previously may have lost longtime trained crews and filled the gap with crappy, less skilled staff.

So, Caveat Emptor
… and;

2) If he has neighborhood ACE hardware, some of the folks at ACE stores often know who's good at whatever and will tell you."

^That first point^ Is a critical one as we have another sister who was actually POISONED by a pest control company in Palm Coast FL when they gave the keys to the company tank truck to a high school kid who would do calls after school - he was supposed to mix "0.09 %" of some poison to treat the house they'd just moved into for fleas and instead the kid mixed the stuff at 9.0 % and went to town spraying with my sister and her newborn in the house!

6-hours later they were both rushed to ER - she was in the hospital for a week and my niece (already a premie) spent over a month in the neo-natal care unit.

Almost 30 years later and neither one of them is anywhere near normal. It's horrible seeing them suffer after all these years.

The pest control company simply changed their name after which She consulted with THE TOP attorneys throughout the SE US and everyone of them told her her case was DOA in FL due to the deals the FL legislators had cut with the big chemical companies.

But, I digress …

Just Git R Dun dude - and without any insurance, annual comebacks or paying for custom color matched mortar, please! :lol:
 
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@440mag haha I love the - as you put it - "war and peace" posts :) keep'em coming!

You'd be happy to know I'm not actively engaging with the people I spoke with till now and few of them stopped talking to me after I ripped out their so called insurance contracts with so many pointers on how it's different to - or outright missing - what they said while talking to me when they visited.

I'm pro DIY too (as long as I can "guarantee my work" :lol:) I am more than willing to do the perimeter soil trench type treatment myself like you and your sister suggested. Only reason I want to hire someone is to do a proper under slab and concrete drilling application to minimize chances of a freak breakout from under house termite attacks (while I hear that's a low probability, I instantly say "low" is not equal to "NO").

Thanks for the ACE hardware suggestion, I haven't even considered that. I have 2 close-by ACE stores, after work I'll drive down to both and check in with them.

I called the allexterminating guys as suggested. The technician is on vacation till the 27th of this month so he'll give a more "exact" quote then. Here's the info I got from him:
1. They use Termidor HP 2. Basically its a Termidor application but with a machine that pushes the liquid into the soil at 3000+ PSI - so no need trenching.
2. Drilling on concrete locations - he said it's not needed with this type of application. He might change his mind when he visits in person given the big back concrete patio and 2 car garage.
3. Under slab treatment - he said it's done without drilling; which I'm guessing hes gonna go under the footer with horizontal injection.
4. Price - I mentioned the linear footage of the house (which I got from previous guys) and he said it would be about $850-900
5. Sadly he mentioned warranty as $220/yr even though he said the treatment should be good for at least 7 years. I'm considering just cancelling the yearly subscription after the installment is done.
 
Sounds like a plan!

Since canceling things can sometimes get messy (remembering the magazine and music cd subscriptions of years gone by); ONCE THE TECH slides paper in front of me I would simply write in the margin, "This agreement for one-time payment only; decline any annual payments for any reason"

Congrats and best o' success to you!
 
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