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PRG 2022 Full Reno

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#1 ·
Howdy,

Never planned on posting anything but have enjoyed following along with the other journals posted here and don't see many Ryegrass journals so figured it might interesting to compare. Didn't take enough pictures during the renovation because it was 97 degrees when I went through all of the work last Sunday 8/7. Took a solid 8 hours of work from 11a to 7p. About 30 miles west of Saint Louis, MO. This is my wife and I's first house, lived here for about a year and a half now. The lawn (and the house) were seriously neglected for many years prior to us moving in. I've renovated much of the house and figured now was the time to pull the trigger on renovating the front lawn. The front lawn had massive amounts of bermuda, dallisgrass (I think, or something like it), and spotty amounts of several grass types that I couldn't stand to look at anymore.

Ryan Knorr Perennial Ryegrass - front lawn is about 1,200 sqft, seeded roughly 12.5 lbs total.

Appreciate the renovation guide in the Cool Season forum by gman as well as everyone's replies and pictures. Really helped me out with a few things I didn't know.

Started glyphosate in mid July. Put down a second covering of gly on July 30. Didn't put down another coating on seed day even though I knew I could have from reading through the reno guide and everyone else's advice. I chickened out, no other way to explain it.

Power raked using the electric Sun Joe deal that you can get at menards. Did a great job, honestly. Multiple passes, multiple directions. Laid seed. Rented a roller from lowes and rolled the seed in. Dropped the scotts starter fertilizer with mesotrione. Covered with peat moss.

We got a storm on Tuesday morning 8/9, wasn't horrible but dropped about 1/3 of an inch of rain in 45 mins and it did washout some of the peat moss and some grass seed from a few areas. I hand spreaded some seed on the areas that I could tell were completely washed out on Tuesday night but the washout wasn't too bad.

Today is Friday 8/12 and there is significant germination already. Will try to upload some pics this weekend. Appreciate everyone's knowledge on the forum, enjoying this whole process.





 
#3 ·
Green babies are popping up! Getting excited to wake up each morning and check out the new growth. Do have one issue because my sump pump is routed into the gutter on the side of the house. It's been running non stop as my area has gotten pummeled with over a foot and a half of rain in the last couple weeks. It's completely saturated that area. Quick fix for now with some corrogated pipe that was left here by the previous owners. May try and run something underground before I reseed that area. Will see how things come in over the weekend and make a decision.







 
#4 ·
Cool. Good luck.

Is this going to be cut high?

Btw, you probably want to angle those downspouts away from the Reno if you're forecasted to get a lot of rain. Better on the neighbor's side temporarily. Not to mention, you don't want it sitting on the same spot all the time preventing germination.
 
#5 ·
Planning on cutting it around 1 to 1.5 inches but going to experiment and see what looks best. I've read that the higher you cut ryegrass the more you deal with seed stalks but it'll be fun to learn.

Agree with you completely on the downspout. I didn't have any foresight to think about that being a problem until after my seed was laid down and the sump pump kicked on. This is completely a temporary fix until I can run something underground. It's never been too big of an issue but now with bare dirt I'm afraid it'll never dry out
 
#8 ·
Appreciate your replies and ideas. The V-shaped stakes was a great idea. Decided to solve this problem once and for all. The idea here was that I used solid pipe until I got far enough away from the foundation then transitioned to the slitted pipe that allows the water to weep before it reaches the daylighted grate. There isn't much of a gutter that feeds this specific down spout. The sump pump is the main issue. Now the water will be distributed away from the foundation. The problem was it was weeping right back into the sump pump, so it pumped water out constantly throughout the day. Like I said, my house was owned by multiple idiots.

Had no germination in this area, can only assume the seed either washed away or it was just too saturated for it to grow. Threw some more seed down following the same process. Figured I probably churned up some weed seeds during this process so laid down more of the starter fert with mesotrione, and covered with peat moss.

Feel like I'll be mowing next week, plenty of germination on the rest of the lawn.






 
#9 ·
Had some rain come through today. Was never heavy at any point so I think it only helped and didn't wash much of anything out. Gutter drain is working really well. Really strong growth in most of the yard. Some thinner spots, but most of the grass is close to 2 inches. Threw a little bit of seed down in some thin areas. Thinking I'm going to let the soil dry just a little bit from all the rain today and mow with a manual reel on Thursday.







 
#10 ·
Mowed twice now with a manual reel. Areas closest to the retaining wall and the side of the house are both growing in well. Front portion of the yard is still sparse and isn't getting cut when I go over it with the reel.

Sprayed 4oz/K of EqualizORR 18-18-18 last night around 8:15 pm and watered it in at 5am this morning. Planning to keep that schedule once a week until mid September or so and then start pushing urea. I like the idea of getting a little more phosphorus to young grass blades.

Area below the drain pipe isn't germinating, I think it's getting saturated. I've adjusted my sprinklers not to hit that area (as much as possible at least). Going to rake the area and drop some more seed today and try not to water it. Should stay wet enough to grow.

Good germination above the drain pipe where I had to re seed. Closing in on all of the bare areas like Patton's 3rd Army




 
#11 ·
Pics after mowing tonight. Been mowing every other day. Noticing slow germination on the areas I've re seeded and slow growth in sunny areas, like many of you guys. The side of the house and areas below the retaining wall are thriving, which experience a lot more shade throughout the day. Wonder if it's just a little too warm for the young grass in the mostly sunny areas?

Sprayed urea at .25lb/K tonight. Planning on spraying straight urea one week and then EqualizORR the next and maybe mix in some urea to get the N content to a quarter pound per thousand.

Still a lot of thin areas but Temps supposed to cool off next week so plan to overseed the thin areas lightly on Sunday after mowing. Time for a cold one




 
#12 ·
Chance of rain tonight and tomorrow so decided to pull the trigger on overseeding the thin spots. Which ended up being most of the lawn...
Used a metal rake to rough up the surface of the dirt. Didn't seem to disturb the growing grass much at all. Spread seed by hand and raked over again. Seemed to embed most of it in the loose dirt. I used this method on the area below the drain last week and it seems to have taken well in that area. Didn't cover with peat moss but figure the current grass will hold seed well enough.
Lawn looks great from a side angle but when you get above it and look straight down you can see how thin it is. Hoping to see it fill in and be striping in a couple weeks
 
#13 ·
28 DAS, I believe. Overseed from last week is germinating. That plus it's been steady rain the last two days has caused me to skip a day of mowing. I've also skipped the urea this week but will probably hit on Wednesday or Thursday depending on when I mow again.
Since I can't sit still I made a diy striping kit for my rotary mower. Worked good on the backyard and allows me to back up, which is what kept me from buying one or some of the other diy ideas. Looking forward to using it on the front lawn in a few weeks




 
#14 ·
Looking good. I attempted a PRG monostand in my backyard a couple years ago but didn't like how it looked in the summer (got too stalky and some thinning/die off). I think it had to do with the conditions in my backyard
https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=340625#p340625
Other than the middle of the summer it's a great grass. So dark and stripes well. Does Ryan list the cultivars in that blend on the tag?
 
#22 ·
I made one myself. It's 4 inch PVC pipe. I filled the inside of the pipe with concrete. I have a piece of electrical conduit that goes through the middle and then a piece of threaded rod that fits inside of the conduit so that the pvc can roll freely.

To get the conduit inside the pvc I drilled a hole in a piece of melamine the same diameter as the conduit so I could stick it through the hole and have it stand straight up and down. Then placed the pvc on the malmine surrounding the pipe and poured the concrete in. Concrete doesn't bond to melamine so the piece just popped right off once everything was dry.

I would guess it weighs 15 to 20 pounds. Doesn't seem to make the mower any harder to push bc it's already so light, being baterry powered. Cost about 50 bucks for all of the parts
 
#25 ·
Having fun trying out new patterns and making the wife roll her eyes and shake her head.
Hit it with another round of EqualizORR tonight. Plan on spreading another application of DiseasEX on Friday. Supposed to heat up here for 5 days or so and don't want anymore fungus getting a chance to take hold.