Good morning . So if you look at my last post you'll see in more detail my lawn issue. I was going to rip up the lawn but I guess I'm going to start to try and fix it.

Attached are some pics. A few questions.

1. Can I apply something for these weeds? What would be best
2. Should I apply something for the possible fungus issues or poa.annua?
3. Do I need to fertilize at this point?

 

Glad to see you opted not to rip up your lawn. Now it's on to dialing in your irrigation, and learning good cultural practices.

Do you have a sprayer by chance, and what kind/how large? A 4-gal backpack style one would make easy work of your weed-control tasks. Oh, and are you thinking of joining in the Fall Nitrogen Blitz? Not sure how much fill-in you'll get but the best defense (against weeds, etc) is a great offense by getting your existing turf to thrive.

 

Okay thanks yes I do have a electric pump sprayer. What can I put on for the weeds at this point and for those particular ones you see growing looks like clovers and regular type weeds.

 

You might have enough grass to not need seeding. I’d certainly give it a try first. In that case, preemergent, nitrogen, and some triclopyr based herbicide. A four way like tzone should cover all of those weeds. And of course get your watering right.

 

Thanks and I haven't been watering a whole lot because I think it may encourage the fungus what is tzone?

 

This worked well for me last year and this year where about weed control and fine tuning watering even more.
My aggressive weed control left me with some bare spots

I used pre emergents and post emergent weed control .

Early spring soil temps 55’F lesco 19-0-7 with dimensions per instructions 3 month coverage
June I did a light feeding of 13-13-13 to get .25lbs N
I used Lesco Eliminate D to spray any current weeds and anything that gets by the pre emergent
Just follow the instructions on application amounts and timming.
For example that big crab grass looking weed in your picture , that should have been hit when it had like 2-5 leaf sets.
Yes you have to learn to look closely and earlier .
I then applied pre emergent to fight the fall germinating weeds.
Like dandelion for example
This is sone when soil temps start dropping

I applied a bit early because of time. Applied Prodamine at 4 month protection which gets me into November

Feeding
I am starting the blitz applying 40 lbs 20-0-0- every 2 weeks to 16,000 ft2

accept the trouble spots , take this time left this season to dial in watering and feeding
Mowing start planning next falls plan now.

research turf types that do well in your area, soil test, stock up on products.

Next year im only doing the spring pre emergent as im planning a 3500 ft reno and over seeding the rest with the top TTTF for draught and disease in my area… info from UMASS for that.

Best advice I have is slow down rushing and tossing everything at it just creates more problems.

 

Should I do a fertilizer now or in fall?

 

Thanks and I haven't been watering a whole lot because I think it may encourage the fungus what is tzone?

figure out how much water you’re putting down and that it’s even.

What Is Tzone

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'What is tzone' themselves.

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Should I do a fertilizer now or in fall?

what are your temps?

 

figure out how much water you’re putting down and that it’s even.

What Is Tzone

For those who think it's easier to annoy you than to Google 'What is tzone' themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

what are your temps?

mid 70's during day and low 60's at night.

 

start fertilizer now. and get your preemergent down. its prime time for poa and fall germinating weeds.

 

Thank you. Any ratio of nitrogen etc. for my fertilizer? Can I kill all the weeds, clover etc. first?

 

yes

Thanks a lot

yes

 

Which would be better for a premergent ? I know one has fertilizer in it.

 

That 5lb jug of prodiamine will out last you on that size lawn. Try to find some other grass nerds in your area to go in on group buys.

 

Anyone???

 

1 or 3. The second one is a combo product with weed killer also.

 

Thanks again. What should I use to KILL the weeds there now? Thanks

 

Tzone

 

So when should apply that as it relates to the fertilizer, pre and post emergents?

 

Tzone is the post emergent.

 

That kills weeds???

 

Post emergent is weed killer for weeds already growing

Pre emergent is for preventing weeds before they grow (emerge)

 

Hi everyone I'm looking for the best pre-emergent really one that I can get on Amazon overnight I've been looking and there's quite a few yes.

 

Just get one that is labeled safe for lawns.

I have had great results from even the big store varieties , sure they might be lower concentrations and cost more but they do/did work
My go to is Lesco Eliminate D and a gollon will last you years .

 

Are you set up to spray or limited to granualar via a spreader?

 

Depending on which one you want/need. I got barricade and tenacity off of Amazon and it was delivered next day

 

Are you going to spray or apply gannular

That said: sadly I end up using Amazon and often can get stuff same day.
Local Stores dont stock much and often take weeks to get anything

 

I did mine with a spray. I didn’t know there was granular!
I will do prodamine (barricade) this weekend at .24oz/kft

 

Granular. Actually guess it doesnt matter. It's ok to lay bith fertilizer and premergent at same time?

 

If you have established grass, you can use "Crew" - a combination of dithiopyr (Dimension) and isoxaben (Gallery). This product doesn't last as long and tends to be a little more expensive, so many use prodiamine (Barricade), which can last into Spring. This allows for a slight overlap when you apply in Spring to prevent Summer weeds.

A new product with a new mode of action called "StriCore" is listed to be released in October. It looks to be a once-a-season thing and is an option to consider next year to vary the modes of action to reduce resistance issues—for example, Crew/Barricade in the Spring and StriCore in the Fall.

Yes, you can put down fertilizer and pre-emergent at the same time. Some fertilizer products have pre-M integrated into the granules for convenience.
You can find both Dimension and Barricade products (active ingredients) in local "big box" or "specialty" stores.

 

Make your life easy. The Anderson’s prodiamine granular. Follow the 4 months rate and be done. Separate walking to spread fertilizer.

 

Thank you! That looks much better than spraying.

 

Does the prodiamine only help with one or two particular types of weeds?

 

Prodiamine will help stop the establishment of many broadleaf and grassy plants. Check the label for more details. Example from one product label: