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Opinions on Renovation Timing?

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#1 ·
I am doing a full renovation on our backyard (about 10,000 sq ft). Due to some pretty extensive grading work that we are finishing, I am not able to get seed down until early next week (so still first week of November). We are in middle Tennessee, so I'm a few weeks late, but still should be fine temperature-wise.

There are about 7 large trees on or around our lot that have not dropped all of their leaves yet. In the past 2 days, lawn went from almost no leaves to being covered in leaves. Once I get those mulched up, I'm hesitant to put seed and straw down since I ideally won't walk on the lawn for a few weeks after that, and therefore won't be able to blow the leaves off. If we get rain between the time I seed and the first time I can get out to mow it in 3-4 weeks, I'm thinking I'll have a bunch of wet leaves on the lawn that will kill any new seedlings.

Would be curious on people's opinions on whether I should just go ahead and get the seed down, try to keep the leaves off of it for the first 5 or so days before it starts sprouting, and hope for the best after that... OR... wait a couple weeks until most of the leaves are down, and then get my seed down, which wouldn't be until the end of November.

Either way, I'm essentially not going to have a lawn until the spring, but I do want to get the seed down as soon as possible so I can get it started before it gets too cold for it to do much of anything until the spring.
 
#2 ·
I have been wondering
How well will annual rye do along side your turf choice.
you can still get your turf started and the annual rye in the mix will germinate quickly and provide some soil retention .
no idea what type of weather you get in middle TN but if its anything like the north east where looking to head deep into Nov with decent grass growing weather.
Anyone around here who thought they seeded late is very happy. Only down side is not much rain.
 
#3 ·
The leafs will be a huge pita, they will kill new or mature grass for sure. I am in mi and got oaks around the house and i spray fungicide all the time because i cant get to cleaning them daily.

Just do a spring seeding or dormant seeding, even if you cleaned them daily you will mess up your seed.
 
#4 ·
My thoughts as well on the leaves, was hoping someone would chime in telling me I'm wrong. Can't wait until the spring, as the grass will get torched with our summers here, so almost pointless to try a full reno then, but I'll give it a couple weeks to let some more leaves fall. I'll have to overseed in the spring anyways since irrigation will have to be winterized before the grass gets fully established, so if some areas die from leaves, that's ok.

Mix is a 90/10 TTTF/KBG blend I've arrived at after about 6 years of trial and error, so want to stick with just that blend since I've never done a complete nuke and start fresh, otherwise the rye would probably be an option.
Thanks both for the inpu
t!
 
#5 ·
My thoughts as well on the leaves, was hoping someone would chime in telling me I'm wrong. Can't wait until the spring, as the grass will get torched with our summers here, so almost pointless to try a full reno then, but I'll give it a couple weeks to let some more leaves fall. I'll have to overseed in the spring anyways since irrigation will have to be winterized before the grass gets fully established, so if some areas die from leaves, that's ok.

Mix is a 90/10 TTTF/KBG blend I've arrived at after about 6 years of trial and error, so want to stick with just that blend since I've never done a complete nuke and start fresh, otherwise the rye would probably be an option.
Thanks both for the inpu
t!
Can you just run temporary sprinkler systen for now. I used annual rye , they call it winter rye at the store. To help with soil retention and just not have bare ground on a slopped area in my front yard.
 
#8 ·
Some ideas: Pre soak and dry out the seed. Treat it with or apply after germination a PGS like Gravity. Makes it grow a bit faster. Mix some annual ryegrass in.

Definitely do not wait even longer. You're already 4 to 6 weeks behind optimal timing.