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#1 ·
Need some help here. In my quest to find an alternative to Milo (Can't get in Canada), I have come across this natural fert from a local supplier. I wanted to get thoughts and opinions if I would get similar benefits to Milo.

9-2-2 + Iron
All natural - organic
Promotes thick, lush green lawn
Slow release Nitrogen
Non-burning
Builds a deep root system
Derived from Feather Meal, Non-Bovine Bone Meal and/or Rock Phosphate, Sulfate of Potash, Ferrous Carbonate, Gypsum and Dolomic Limestone

GUARANTEED MINIMUM ANALYSIS:
Total Nitrogen 9.0%
0.9% Water Soluble Nitrogen
8.1% Water Insoluble Nitrogen
Available Phosphoric Acid 2.0%
Soluble Potash 2.0%
Iron Actual 2.0%
Calcium 2.5%
Magnesium 1.0%
Sulphur 1.0%
Organic Matter 40.0%
 
#27 ·
@Harts Weed Be Gon is different between the US and Canada. In the USA it's sold by Ortho and is likely the same as Killex in Canada. You did not specify which formulation you used.
Scotts has a "Weed Be Gon" product and it is a chelated iron solution. I hear it is supposed to work, but it is more limited in the number of weeds it works on, and requires more safety gear to be worn by the applicator than Killex, not to mention multiple applications to get the job done.

I do have plenty of established dandelions, but I also have several other invasive plants such as Daisy and Yarrow, and I have no idea if chelated iron will be effective on them. I do plan to try it out, even though the cost is much higher than the old Killex formula. I only have about 3000 sq feet of lawn and at the local Canadian Tire it would cost $80+ taxes for enough Scotts Ecosense Weed Be Gon concentrate (2 x 1 liter bottles) to blanket spray my lawn ONCE. The lawn care companies here are using Fiesta with less than stellar results, from what I understand.

Oh well....

Regards

Christian
 
#28 ·
I learned something today. Reading about chelated iron in weed b gon made me do a Google search since it was the first time reading about it. Here is a link to some pro and cons about it (not that you have much choice about it). They highlight the need for multiple applications.

https://extension.umd.edu/sites/default/files/_docs/programs/ipmnet/Iron%2520Herbicide%2520Info-UMD-IPMnet.pdf
 
#29 ·
I used the Eco sense WBG from Canadian Tire. But keep in mind that Ontario has different restrictions. There are herbicides available to other provinces that I can't get here. Unfortunately, Scott's doesn't list the active ingredients on their labels and their website isn't much help.

I did order a bottle of killex online that I'll receive this week,which will give me 2, 4D - something I can't get here.

Unfortunately, regardless of what you use, it's going to take multiple applications to get your weed issue under control. But once you do, it wont be nearly as expensive or time consuming going forward.
 
#31 ·
Hey All!

Brand new to lawn care as of "too late for weed control" spring time this year

Im up in Ottawa too

Found this https://acti-sol.ca/en/engrais/lawn-fertilizer-step-12-spring-summer-7-3-2/ at a local garden centre, along with the company's other products

And stumbled upon this company http://www.sustane.com/products/turfgrass while looking at who supplies golf courses....http://www.oscturf.com/Home.htm

The Acti-Sol was priced almost identically $/kg as the HH stuff ($2.6/kg) and is 60% organic matter if thats worth anything
 
#32 ·
Welcome to TLF! ALways nice to see more Canadians.

It's never too late for weed control. I'm still spot spraying once every week or two depending on what's popping up. Check out lawnproducts.ca, they sell Killex (US Formula with 2,4-D and Dicamba) - Active ingredients that are banned in Ontario.

I've looked at the Acti-Sol products but never used them. I just placed an order with HH yesterday for their Naturall Fert 9-2-2 and am going to spoon feed every week. @Sinclair has used this product with a lot of success.

The two other links you supplied look intriguing. I wonder if they sell to the public????

Not sure how new you are to the world of lawn care on YouTube, but there are a couple of guys who are a must follow. Let me know and I'll send you the channels you should subscribe too.

Again, welcome!
 
#39 ·
bmelz said:
I think I'm a bit late to the party. The HH website states that their 9-2-2 is only available in store, and my store(s) don't have any in stock.

Hopefully they'll get some more stock soon. It does seem a bit pricey but looks like it could be a good Canadian alternative.
You have to ask for it at the order desk. They don't stock it.

Mine came in about 3 days.
 
#41 ·
I too would be interested to see if there is something I'm missing out on.

I have been watching:

The Lawn Care Nut (Very entertaining and good information, I think)

The Grass Factor (Really in depth on chemicals, but perhaps a bit dry?)

Ryan Knorr Lawn Care

GCI Turf Services
 
#42 ·
kaptain_zero said:
I too would be interested to see if there is something I'm missing out on.

I have been watching:

The Lawn Care Nut (Very entertaining and good information, I think)

The Grass Factor (Really in depth on chemicals, but perhaps a bit dry?)

Ryan Knorr Lawn Care

GCI Turf Services
I'll add a couple to that

Grass Daddy - very relatable

Lawn Tips - Aussie golf greens keeper, runs a PRG lawn at home.

Connor Ward - insanely good low cut KBG
 
#43 ·
@bmelz, @Sinclair is right. Go into your store and give them the item number from the website and they will order it from their warehouse. I just ordered mine on Monday and the woman told me they had over 100 bags in stock. It should be coming in tomorrow.

One more YouTube channel - Jake the Lawn Car Kid. He used to be neighbours with Allyn Hane (LCN) before Alyn moved to Florida. He is in his teens, lives in the Midwest and runs his own lawn care business. He's pretty phenomenal for his age and learned everything from LCN.
 
#44 ·
Harts said:
One more YouTube channel - Jake the Lawn Car Kid. He used to be neighbours with Allyn Hane (LCN) before Alyn moved to Florida. He is in his teens, lives in the Midwest and runs his own lawn care business. He's pretty phenomenal for his age and learned everything from LCN.
Obviously, they're different people, but since they're such good friends, Jake is in a lot of ways similar with his video style and grass knowledge, so watching Jake is a lot like watching Allyn as far as terminology, overall style, camera angles, etc. They do many things in a similar way. I don't know how anyone could be watching one and onto the other.
 
#45 ·
Green said:
Harts said:
One more YouTube channel - Jake the Lawn Car Kid. He used to be neighbours with Allyn Hane (LCN) before Alyn moved to Florida. He is in his teens, lives in the Midwest and runs his own lawn care business. He's pretty phenomenal for his age and learned everything from LCN.
Obviously, they're different people, but since they're such good friends, Jake is in a lot of ways similar with his video style and grass knowledge, so watching Jake is a lot like watching Allyn as far as terminology, overall style, camera angles, etc. They do many things in a similar way. I don't know how anyone could be watching one and onto the other.
I do like Jake and LCN but you are right. There are things Jake says that downright the same thing Allyn says in his video sometimes the week before, almost word for word. But I seriously admire Jake for what he is doing with a business and his passion even as a teenager in a generation where his peers are gulping down Tide Pods like candy.
 
#46 ·
Killsocket said:
I do like Jake and LCN but you are right. There are things Jake says that downright the same thing Allyn says in his video sometimes the week before, almost word for word. But I seriously admire Jake for what he is doing with a business and his passion even as a teenager in a generation where his peers are gulping down Tide Pods like candy.
I meant to say, not sure how anyone could watch one but not know about the other...they go together. I like that you can watch one and then watch the other and have some continuity. Too bad neither are members here...yet. But videos take a lot of time to plan, film, and edit, so I don't blame them. That's precisely why I'm not into shooting video at this time, even though it's something I enjoy a lot...just don't currently have time for it. Thankfully, some people manage to make time for it, though. @thegrassfactor makes a lot of videos, and still manages to post here, which is amazing. Not sure how he does it.

I enjoy a lot of Jake's and Allyn's camera angles, as well info.

@ryanknorr did some seriously involved editing, in which he made cutaway shots in time with his music in one of his latest videos...
 
#49 ·
Green said:
Killsocket said:
I do like Jake and LCN but you are right. There are things Jake says that downright the same thing Allyn says in his video sometimes the week before, almost word for word. But I seriously admire Jake for what he is doing with a business and his passion even as a teenager in a generation where his peers are gulping down Tide Pods like candy.
I meant to say, not sure how anyone could watch one but not know about the other...they go together. I like that you can watch one and then watch the other and have some continuity. Too bad neither are members here...yet. But videos take a lot of time to plan, film, and edit, so I don't blame them. That's precisely why I'm not into shooting video at this time, even though it's something I enjoy a lot...just don't currently have time for it. Thankfully, some people manage to make time for it, though. @thegrassfactor makes a lot of videos, and still manages to post here, which is amazing. Not sure how he does it.

I enjoy a lot of Jake's and Allyn's camera angles, as well info.

@ryanknorr did some seriously involved editing, in which he made cutaway shots in time with his music in one of his latest videos...
LCN did join here recently.

https://thelawnforum.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1719
 
#50 ·
pennstater2005 said:
LCN did join here recently.

https://thelawnforum.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1719
Cool! @LawnCareNut, we love ya!
Memorial Day...what a perfect day to join!