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Lawn in South Western Ontario - hit it again with Tenacity?

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#1 ·
Hello everyone - first time poster but forum reader for the past 6 months and I've learned a ton, so thank you to all the knowledgeable posters who are happy to spend time helping others on the journey.

I have a 22,000 sq ft lawn that I've only started to focus on and get on top of this year.

My actions this year have been as follows:

May 1st: Prodiamine at 0.183 ounces / 1,000 ft sq plus Humic and Fulvic Acid
May 16th: Tenacity blanket spray at 2.465 ml (0.0835 ounces) / 1,000 ft sq
May 17th: Home Hardware Nature's Best 9-2-2 Plus Iron at 0.48 lb of N / 1,000 sq ft
May 31: Spot spraying of Killex on Tenacity-resistant areas of clover and a few other broad leafs.
June 2: Grub-Ex at 2.97 lb / 1,000 ft sq

The lawn looks okay from a distance and it's improved massively from the absolute mixed salad that it was last year:





You can see the bleached spots from my Tenacity app 2 weeks ago.

In some of the patches that died off last summer, I originally thought this was due to grub damage (I spotted a few grubs and had some critters digging up patches last year) but I now think that - as revealed by the Tenacity bleaching - this was actually more due to Poa Annua die off.



I see some growth now starting to coming up in the bleached spots and cannot determine whether this is desirable turf coming through or the undesirable stuff regenerating. My question is: should I hit these previously bleached spots again with a Tenacity app at this point? If so, at what rate?















Plans for the remainder of the year include two more Prodiamine apps (end July and end September), another 9-2-2 throw down maybe in early July, and some fast release N in the Fall.

Any views would be gratefully received.
 
#3 ·
Thanks, snowbob. You're right - some of that bleaching is definitely bentgrass. I'm going to try and see whether the Tenacity has killed it and there's good grass coming through, or whether it's regenerating. If the latter, I may try another half rate app of Tenacity.
 
#5 ·
I would skip the 9-2-2 in July. Your grass is going to be stressed enough with the summer heat, adding nitrogen will only force it to grow when it really just wants to lay dormant.

In August you can start a Fall spoon feeding program with Urea - easily found at TSC (closest one to you might be Milton. Not sure if there is one in Burlington).
 
#7 ·
Babameca said:
@Argon 0.55oz? This will kill the lawn. 4-8oz/acre is per the label. I would hit 2 more times the white spots with 2oz/A, 2 weeks apart. This is 1.5ml per 1000sqf!
You're quite right! Thanks, Babameca. Got my numbers mixed up. I meant my Tenacity app was actually at 2.465 ml / 0.0835 ounces per 1,000 sq ft. Original post now amended.

I will hit those white spots twice more, 2 weeks apart then at the lower rate you specify. Thanks again.
 
#8 ·
Harts said:
I would skip the 9-2-2 in July. Your grass is going to be stressed enough with the summer heat, adding nitrogen will only force it to grow when it really just wants to lay dormant.

In August you can start a Fall spoon feeding program with Urea - easily found at TSC (closest one to you might be Milton. Not sure if there is one in Burlington).
That's great feedback - thanks, Harts. I will stock up on some Urea instead then. Would you just go right through to the end of the year then spoonfeeding Urea rather than any more traditional synthetic fertilizer options? I know I should have a soil test done to see whether I need P or K or anything else, so I guess the answer probably depends on that...?
 
#10 ·
Argon said:
Harts said:
I would skip the 9-2-2 in July. Your grass is going to be stressed enough with the summer heat, adding nitrogen will only force it to grow when it really just wants to lay dormant.

In August you can start a Fall spoon feeding program with Urea - easily found at TSC (closest one to you might be Milton. Not sure if there is one in Burlington).
That's great feedback - thanks, Harts. I will stock up on some Urea instead then. Would you just go right through to the end of the year then spoonfeeding Urea rather than any more traditional synthetic fertilizer options? I know I should have a soil test done to see whether I need P or K or anything else, so I guess the answer probably depends on that...?
A soil test is always recommended. Truth be told, I've never done one. I'm sure my lawn is deficient in something, but I'm also happy with how it looks. I also don't plan on being in the house too much longer...but I digress.

I spread 1lb N per K of the 9-2-2 in April every year. Beginning in May I start PGR + Iron apps every 3 weeks or so. In that tank I mix 0.25lb Urea (0.12lb N). It's a minimal amount of N.

In August I start spoon feeding 0.25lb urea every week for 8-10 weeks.

There are so many different fert programs. What I do works for me. It's easy and I don't spend a ton of money. The Urea I bought will last me years - I also only have 2,500 sf. Even the 9-2-2 lasted 2+ years.

The best thing we can all do is try out different things and find what works best then stick with it. If you wanted to put down 05lb N from the 9-2-2 in August, you could start spoon feeding Urea in September. You could also do 0.5lb N in April, 0.5lb N in June then spoon feed urea beginning in August. So many options!
 
#11 ·
Harts said:
Argon said:
Harts said:
I would skip the 9-2-2 in July. Your grass is going to be stressed enough with the summer heat, adding nitrogen will only force it to grow when it really just wants to lay dormant.

In August you can start a Fall spoon feeding program with Urea - easily found at TSC (closest one to you might be Milton. Not sure if there is one in Burlington).
That's great feedback - thanks, Harts. I will stock up on some Urea instead then. Would you just go right through to the end of the year then spoonfeeding Urea rather than any more traditional synthetic fertilizer options? I know I should have a soil test done to see whether I need P or K or anything else, so I guess the answer probably depends on that...?
A soil test is always recommended. Truth be told, I've never done one. I'm sure my lawn is deficient in something, but I'm also happy with how it looks. I also don't plan on being in the house too much longer...but I digress.

I spread 1lb N per K of the 9-2-2 in April every year. Beginning in May I start PGR + Iron apps every 3 weeks or so. In that tank I mix 0.25lb Urea (0.12lb N). It's a minimal amount of N.

In August I start spoon feeding 0.25lb urea every week for 8-10 weeks.

There are so many different fert programs. What I do works for me. It's easy and I don't spend a ton of money. The Urea I bought will last me years - I also only have 2,500 sf. Even the 9-2-2 lasted 2+ years.

The best thing we can all do is try out different things and find what works best then stick with it. If you wanted to put down 05lb N from the 9-2-2 in August, you could start spoon feeding Urea in September. You could also do 0.5lb N in April, 0.5lb N in June then spoon feed urea beginning in August. So many options!
Thanks again, Harts, for that handful of permutations to think about. I guess I'll just feel my way along (within the parameters of conventional wisdom on these topics) and keep a close eye on what sort of signals the lawn gives me. The satisfying thing is that my efforts so far this year seem to have made a huge impact. On the other hand, I now see problems and imperfections everywhere 😁
 
#13 ·
What fresh horror is this? I hit my patches of bentgrass with a second app of Tenacity 12 days ago, but this time at a half rate. A lot of the bentgrass appears to have died off, but now I have this fairly broad-leafed stuff popping up in the middle. Does anyone know what it is?







 
#15 ·
Thanks for the quick reply, Harts. I've got so much stuff going on in this lawn that I'm beginning to think my best option is to nuke everything and start again. I'm planning a major landscape revision though over the next couple of years so, until then, I'm just going to have to limp along and do my best. At least it'll be a learning experience as I build up to a full reno.