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@Green understandable. Depending on the map you look at I'm on the opposite edge. I'm technically in zone 8a and NC State puts me in the costal plane region but I'm right on the border of both. Fescue is the only suggested cool season for me if you dive 20 min east there are a bunch of KBG lawns and fescue does really well here in the spring and fall but completely crispy in summer. So that's why I'm considering it, I want green spring and fall but would like to not have to overseed every year with rye then kill it off going into summer.
 
Cory said:
@Green understandable. Depending on the map you look at I'm on the opposite edge. I'm technically in zone 8a and NC State puts me in the costal plane region but I'm right on the border of both.
Yeah, we are 6b/7a up here, and can grow any cool season grass or Zoysia. But in the Summer, crabgrass typically takes over unmanaged lawns. Bermuda isn't a thought to most people because until recently there wasn't any that could survive below zero temps for sale.
 
Colonel K0rn said:
Pete1313 said:
I think if someone does this @Ware would have to create a special sub-forum just for them.. Is it a cool season? Warm season? :lol:
How about Lukewarm?
:lol:
 
I ran into this when I was researching HGT a few years ago, and considered doing it a couple of times, but it doesn't make sense on a typical home lawn. First thing is Bermuda looks clumpy in tall cut KBG(don't ask me how I know), so you'd need to go low, below 1". At that height, in he heat of summer in the transition zone, the bluegrass won't make it past mid June without constant irrigation. So you'd need to irrigate anyway, and at that point might as well just go 100% KBG. If you let the bluegrass go you can expect heavy losses and recovery will take months, so you're just shifting the "brown window".

Where I see this being useful is athletic fields. KBG is not going to recover from wear during summer, so having Bermuda there to aggressively spread and fill in patches is advantageous. Lawns which experience a lot of traffic might benefit as well.
 
Perfect timing. Maybe the publisher of that site saw our discussion and upped the posting date of the article!
 
^ i think you should reach out to the blumuda guys (https://www.mosportsturfconsulting.com/) for guidance. I know the kbg cultivar needs to be one that tolerates high temps better than the ones used in the north.
 
I have a partial bluemuda yard. The bermuda is a weed, but I don't see it until late summer and by the time I start to manage the lawn for fall it's not growing nearly as fast as is easily outcompeted by the cool-season grass. My employer has a fecue/bermuda stand that looks great.

I'm not much for slice-seeding or aerating, but I would think a mid-late September overseed with one of these techniques would work for this.
 
My neighbor actually has a fescue/Bermuda lawn. I don't think it was on purpose, but it looks good right now while my fescue looks terrible. In the winter, his looks pretty green with just a couple 100% Bermuda spots that are brown. I am not sure how he was managed that since he only mows and has trugreen spray for him.
 
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i need to do some leveling and I plan on dethatching /scalping then seeding in my HGT Turf Blue KBG in September. should I level now, or after I dethatch and scalp, or wait till spring?
 
dmouw said:
i need to do some leveling and I plan on dethatching /scalping then seeding in my HGT Turf Blue KBG in September. should I level now, or after I dethatch and scalp, or wait till spring?
I think it depends on how much leveling. If you need to apply a lot of product you may not have enough time for the bermuda to fully recover before seeding KBG. You're kind of up against it now, I would probably level late spring knowing that you will have to at least reseed that area with KBG next fall. Just my .02
 
I am thinking that in 2019 I might try converting parts of my lawn to blumuda. It looks like Latitude 36 will grow in my area, and I can get plugs of it and plant it in late spring.

In the fall I would go back and overseed the Bermuda with the Turf Blue HGT.

I am thinking that since I can only get plugs of Bermuda I might start with my sidewalk strips, and if they do well, each year pull plugs from the strips (and order some) to transplant into other areas of the yard.
 
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