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I had a spring that came off the throttle linkage and i'm not sure were it connects to adjust RPM. I know where it goes on the governor arm. I just got the new spring in. I'm guessing i'm going to feel pretty stupid.... but I also just want to make sure the linkage is set up correctly because the idle adjustment screw was not on it. So I have that on there now. Thanks!
 
ZachUA said:
Brackin4au said:
ZachUA said:
Hi Pete, I've read that the lower number blades increase the FOC or do I have that backwards? I do get a little bit of washboarding right now with the original blade.

If I switch to a 7 blade setup, what will be my optimal HOC range?
Think you've got it backwards. Higher number of blades = higher FOC. More blades means more cuts. This is good when you are super low, like greens, but for anything over 1/2", less blades is better. I think 7 blade should set you up great. I currently have an 11 blade on my 260SL, but plan on getting a 7 blade at some point. I'm starting to get washboarding as well, cutting at 0.7 right now.
Ok good to know! I have read several times on teh forum folks mention trying to get their number of blades to match their hoc, but didn't really understand. For example, if you're cutting at .5" does that mean you'd want 5 blades? or at .125" you'd want 12 blades?
Nah I think it's the FOC they want to match the HOC. Number of blades and HOC aren't going to match. It's just the more blades in a reel, the more times a blade passes the bedknife to cut. So at really low cuts, that's ideal. But for higher HOC, if the blade is coming by too quickly, it won't snip all the grass blades, and will end up just bending them over and missing them. I am sure it makes a difference if your FOC and HOC are the ideal match, but to me, I'm not too worried about it. I have an 11 blade and cutting at 5/8-3/4. Sure it's not golf green quality, but it still looks much better than a rotary. Plus my yard just isn't level enough for super low to look perfect anyway. Right now I'm sticking with the 11 blade for a while, possibly this whole season... then switching to 7 blade. I don't expect it to look perfect until I can dump a LOT of sand on it more than a few times haha
 
walk1355 said:
stepper said:
TonyC said:
@stepper I'm a little confused which carb you have installed now. If it's the original, then there are some additional cleaning points such as the idle/pilot jet, and the main fuel screen that may of been overlooked. My money is on the idle jet.

A carburetor is very simple, but yet terribly complex equation of fuel delivery. The bottom line is how it meters fuel at idle (low rpm), and how it steps things up under load (high rpm). You appear to have an issue on the idle side of the equation. By using the Choke you are creating a vacuum that artificially pulls fuel through the main jet (high side) to compensate for a clogged idle jet. I would start by cleaning out the idle jet. There are several YT videos (this one at 4:56) out there on that.



If it is searching/surging then start to look at the Governor linkage. This only comes into play after the engine will run, but not smoothly. Is it moving in sync with the rpms? You should be able to see the linkage moving and shutting down the throttle butterfly. Hold your finger on the governor arm and push towards the rear of the mower. Do the RPMs steady and increase? How to Adjust

Bottom line, we should be able to isolate this issue pretty easily.

Cheers!
Thanks for the response @TonyC

I replaced the old carb with a new one. It wouldn't start at all before I did that. Sorry I wasn't clear. This is the new carb: HIPA Replace Carburetor with... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WPSE934?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I'll follow your advice on the governor and see what happens.
That's a carb for a Honda GX160. I know all 5 of the JD green's mowers I've worked on all have GX120 engines. I don't think those carbs are interchangable.

That may be your problem. The new carb you purchased may be the wrong one.
Put on the carb you mentioned and it's purring like a kitten. Thanks again!
 
stepper said:
walk1355 said:
stepper said:
Thanks for the response @TonyC

I replaced the old carb with a new one. It wouldn't start at all before I did that. Sorry I wasn't clear. This is the new carb: HIPA Replace Carburetor with... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WPSE934?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I'll follow your advice on the governor and see what happens.
That's a carb for a Honda GX160. I know all 5 of the JD green's mowers I've worked on all have GX120 engines. I don't think those carbs are interchangable.

That may be your problem. The new carb you purchased may be the wrong one.
Put on the carb you mentioned and it's purring like a kitten. Thanks again!
Awesome. Glad it worked out.
 
When doing an oil change on these, is there any trick to getting all the oil out? I pulled the plug in rear of engine and leaned the mower back, but once it's leaned over, it's difficult to fit a catch can underneath. Not much room between the ground and bars. It would be easier if I could drive it up onto something elevated so that the catch can could easily fit under the mower.
 
Jrich said:
Also anyone got a better idea for a temporary solution?

That groomer height adjustment bolt is on inside out. The nut and sliding handle (#14) should be on the outside. the exploded parts diagrams don't show it very well, but the round head of the carriage bolt (#1) should be to the inside closest to the reel. I'm guessing that it was broken because the reel hit the handle.

 
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
 
stepper said:
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
No issues cutting them off other then you wont be able to use transport wheels.
 
stepper said:
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
Haha. I literally ran into this same issue. With the axels there was no way I could fit the mower through my gate to the backyard. I cut off the transport axles and now it just fits. I used a angle grinder and file.
 
SNOWBOB11 said:
stepper said:
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
Haha. I literally ran into this same issue. With the axels there was no way I could fit the mower through my gate to the backyard. I cut off the transport axles and now it just fits. I used a angle grinder and file.
I wish there were a way to cut them off and weld on some type of quick disconnect in case you ever wanted to reinstall them so you could add wheels/tires back on.

edit: anyone have any tips on changing the oil in these machines. Are you putting the unit up on a platform of some type to give you some height to fit a catch can under once it's leaned over to drain?
 
SNOWBOB11 said:
stepper said:
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
Haha. I literally ran into this same issue. With the axels there was no way I could fit the mower through my gate to the backyard. I cut off the transport axles and now it just fits. I used a angle grinder and file.
Right? It was like a square peg in a round hole getting back there before I took the fence off. Who knew 22" would end up being about 36"
 
Pete1313 said:
stepper said:
I have two options, hack off the axle for the transport wheels on my 220b or make the gate to my backyard wider. I've seen other people cut off the axles. There's no real issue doing that right? Don't wan to have to take the gate off every time I go back there like I have been haha
No issues cutting them off other then you wont be able to use transport wheels.
That's what I figured. I'll cut them off tonight.
 
Hey guys, I have a line on a couple of jd220 mowers. A b model and a e cut hybrid. Same price and condition from what I can tell. The e cut is the latest model correct? Seems like a no brainer to go with the e, am I missing something though?
 
bp2878 said:
Hey guys, I have a line on a couple of jd220 mowers. A b model and a e cut hybrid. Same price and condition from what I can tell. The e cut is the latest model correct? Seems like a no brainer to go with the e, am I missing something though?
without knowing the price its hard to tell if you are getting a deal on an e-cut or getting cheated for that B. are they both from the same seller?
 
jha4aamu said:
bp2878 said:
Hey guys, I have a line on a couple of jd220 mowers. A b model and a e cut hybrid. Same price and condition from what I can tell. The e cut is the latest model correct? Seems like a no brainer to go with the e, am I missing something though?
without knowing the price its hard to tell if you are getting a deal on an e-cut or getting cheated for that B. are they both from the same seller?
Same seller, 600$. 2 e models and 1 b model at that price. I think it is a surplus seller. has multiple jd greensmower trailers and carts for sell too.
 
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