Looks like Bahia

http://www.sandksod.com/argentine-bahia/

 

@ccanad zoysia japonica.

 

Looks like Bahia

http://www.sandksod.com/argentine-bahia/

I don't believe that it's Bahia. I have some pockets of Bahia in my backyard and they have large Y-shaped seed stalks. This is different than that.

 

@ccanad zoysia japonica.

Is there any specific identifier I should be looking for? Runners/Seed Stalks/Etc...?

 

Looks like Empire Zoysia.

 

@ccanad zoysia japonica.

Is there any specific identifier I should be looking for? Runners/Seed Stalks/Etc...?

It's to late in the season for seed heads, but you might be able to find stolons around the perimeter. They resemble bermuda stolons, but are fatter and the internode length tends to be much shorter

 

Look at my user pic for zoysia runners.

 

Looks like Empire or El Toro Zoysia

 

Here is a runner I found in the grass. Maybe this could help...

 

@ccanad I change my vote, but i don't know what that is. It definitely isn't zoysia.

 

Is there a thinner blade St Aug that I am not used to seeing?

 

Any seed heads?

 

Looks like St. zoyuda.

 

Hmmm. I found something similar in a ditch area at work that leads to a retention pond. I'm not sure what it is either. The blades on this grass can grow to be over a foot tall if not mowed. I'm not familiar with centipede so I was thinking maybe that? The stolons in my mystery grass really resemble zoysia more to me though.

 

@FlaDave now I'm wondering about carpetgrass. @Colonel K0rn might be able to help with that guess.

 

You know, I looked at this thread earlier, and based on the pictures, I was thinking it was centipede, because the internodes connect to look like a centipede (easiest way that I can identify it). I clearly remember plucking some out of my yard this Spring, and the stolons had a purple hue to them, unlike the sample that I see here, which is white. That makes me lean more toward centipede.

A sure-fire way to test is to spray one with MSM and another with Celsius. If it dies from MSM it's bahia, dies from Celsius it's carpet grass. If you look at it and it dies, it's St Aug.

 

Look for hairs on the leaf blade. See chart for places to check.

 

you likely have carpetgrass. Runner up is St. Augustine, which is basically the same thing. it could be centipede grass, but if that's the case then you can't rule out palmetto buffalo grass either.

 

you likely have carpetgrass. Runner up is St. Augustine, which is basically the same thing. it could be centipede grass, but if that's the case then you can't rule out palmetto buffalo grass either.

Who has crapetgrass? Me or FlaDave?

 

you likely have carpetgrass. Runner up is St. Augustine, which is basically the same thing. it could be centipede grass, but if that's the case then you can't rule out palmetto buffalo grass either.

Who has crapetgrass? Me or FlaDave?

You. Fladave looks more like centipede

 

you likely have carpetgrass. Runner up is St. Augustine, which is basically the same thing. it could be centipede grass, but if that's the case then you can't rule out palmetto buffalo grass either.

Quick google search, it doesn't appear to be carpetgrass.

LCN thinks it's a thin blade St Aug variety. Maybe bitter blue or seville...

 

you likely have carpetgrass. Runner up is St. Augustine, which is basically the same thing. it could be centipede grass, but if that's the case then you can't rule out palmetto buffalo grass either.

Quick google search, it doesn't appear to be carpetgrass.

LCN thinks it's a thin blade St Aug variety. Maybe bitter blue or seville...

There are very few differences between St. Augustine and Carpetgrass (and also centipede). Carpetgrass is basically a thin-blade version of St. Augustine. Just like Charleston Grass is just another name for the same thing. In many parts of Texas they are considered the same type of grass although that is not technically correct. Carpetgrass has some differences, but they are not usually visually distinguishable.

Seville is possible, but it's not that common in sod farms due to cold tolerance.

Frankly I don't think it matters. You treat both of them the same, so call it St. Aug and call it done.

**edit: here's a picture of carpet grass. You notice how the tip is not blunt, but comes to a point. That is the main difference, and the likely reason why your grass is carpetgrass. It could be an uncommon st. aug variety, but I would still call that a runner-up pick.

 

Definitely not a warm season grass expert, though I know what Zoysia and St. Aug look like in person. Initially I was thinking Zoysia. I do not think that now, though, because if I zoom in, it does not look like Zoysia (there are people with Zoysia in my neighborhood), but looks more similar in structure (not blade width) to St. Aug. So I think LCN and those who said Carpetgrass/St. Aug. nailed it. Just a cool season guy's opinion.

So, is Carpetgrass considered to be in the St. Augustine family? Like how Tall Fescue is in the Ryegrass family...

 

So, is Carpetgrass considered to be in the St. Augustine family? Like how Tall Fescue is in the Ryegrass family...

Exactly - or at least that's my understanding. Where St. Aug became popular in the USA in places like Florida, SC, GA, etc., I am fairly sure turf pros would shun you for life for calling carpetgrass "St. Augustine." But people mistake the two in Texas and Louisiana all the time and most varieties are virtually indistinguishable to even DIY enthusiasts. Some carpetgrass can grow by seed is one difference. Some carpetgrass looks a lot more like centipede and is sold in seed and plug form as a carpetgrass/centipede mix. And as Colonel Corn mentioned earlier, carpetgrass and St. Augustine have different herbicide tolerances (some varieties do not).

 

Some carpetgrass looks a lot more like centipede and is sold in seed and plug form as a carpetgrass/centipede mix. And as Colonel Corn mentioned earlier, carpetgrass and St. Augustine have different herbicide tolerances (some varieties do not).

I still don't know for sure what my former gf's family had...it looked like St. Aug. kind of, but not really...I thought maybe it was Centipede. Someone in her family said Bermuda, and he was a landscaper who had never heard of KBG, Fescue, or Rye, but I think he was referring to the other 1/3 of the mix (two grass types plus weeds).

Maybe Carpetgrass.

I know Tenacity can be used on St. Aug., even if not labeled for residential lawns...thought that was pretty cool.

St. Aug is cool, but I'm not going to grow it unless I live on the gulf someday. And Virginia Beach is about the furthest North you can get away with it, I hear. We have cool season wide bladed KY-31 Fescue that looks almost identical and is super tough as an option, but without the self repair from stolons of St. Aug. Hardly anyone into lawns uses it, but a few guys on here have lawns they planted with it, like Powhatan in VA.

I would be interested in learning exactly how St. Aug, Centipede, and Carpetgrass are related.