[Frankzzz]

I am wondering what the dangers are of a person contacting the treated exterior surfaces after the app has dried, but then is wet again for some reason? I have little kids and I tend to apply the treatments to, say, the front door jamb, but sometimes my little kids hold the door jamb to go out over the threshold, and they may have wet hands.

Does water re-enable the dangerous-when-contacted elements of these chems after they have dried initially?

No idea. But just to be safe, I wouldn't spray the entire door jamb. Just spray the threshold and maybe 1' up the jamb from the threshold.

 

[pennstater2005]

Talstar P today house exterior.

 

[gm560]

I am a regular user of Talstar P/Bifenthrin (October-April) and Cy-Kick/Cyfluthrin (May-Sept, which is scorpion season here in AZ).

I am wondering what the dangers are of a person contacting the treated exterior surfaces after the app has dried, but then is wet again for some reason? I have little kids and I tend to apply the treatments to, say, the front door jamb, but sometimes my little kids hold the door jamb to go out over the threshold, and they may have wet hands.

Does water re-enable the dangerous-when-contacted elements of these chems after they have dried initially?

I think it is fine once it dries, but for piece of mind, you could maybe use Permethrin in those areas or until they are a bit older. Permethrin is in a lot of bug sprays, dog flea treatment, and is even the AI in the shampoo you would buy at the drug store if your kids happened to get lice.

 

[stogie1020]

Thanks gents, I think I will play is safe and just do the lower 6-8 inches of the front door jamb. I also used to spray the back concrete patio, but will probably just do the foot or so of patio right in front of the sliding door.

 

[pennstater2005]

Need to get down an app soon. It's been since early spring. I want to get a better sprayer for my insecticide applications.

 

[Grass Clippins]

Anyone having issue with hard to kill hornet and wasp this year? In ground nest aren't bad because I can saturate the nest but the aerial nest are making me work. I've tried spraying suspend polyzone at 1.5 oz/gallon and it's doing nothing. I'm letting them have it with a jet stream from about 15 feet away. I've also tried Delta Dust and Tempo Dust. I've got a duster on a pole that will get me with 8 feet but I may have to invest in a bee suit to get right on the opening of the nest.

 

[pennstater2005]

Anyone having issue with hard to kill hornet and wasp this year? In ground nest aren't bad because I can saturate the nest but the aerial nest are making me work. I've tried spraying suspend polyzone at 1.5 oz/gallon and it's doing nothing. I'm letting them have it with a jet stream from about 15 feet away. I've also tried Delta Dust and Tempo Dust. I've got a duster on a pole that will get me with 8 feet but I may have to invest in a bee suit to get right on the opening of the nest.

I just had a bald faced hornets nest hanging from a tree branch. The only reason I found it was on a ladder trimming with a pole saw and they started buzzing around me. I ended up spraying it with a full can of wasp killer (intermittently) and then another can the following night.

Not much was buzzing after that so my wife and I both climbed up 9 foot step ladder and she held the garbage bag while I used the pruners to cut. There were some wasps left as you could hear them buzzing. I triple bagged that sucker.

 

[440mag]

Any recommendation for spider mites on Ornamental Arbor Vitae Thuja Green Giants? or Arbor Vitaes overall?
I could use Bifen IT since I was using Bifen XTS but latter was overkill & wasteful against the mites & the former was what Domyown recommended.

Jsut wanted more opinions.

I don't count on anything other than ***SYSTEMIC*** active ingredients (meaning the plant literally ABSORBS the active ingredient into the plant's circulatory system) when it comes to plant munching pests - my go to (neighborhood visitors stop in wonder at the Leyland Cypress and Arborviatae) is Orthene (Acephate) with any root drench containing imidacloprid a close second …

https://www.domyown.com/orthene-97-spray-insecticide-p-3962.html

Orthene 97 Spray Insecticide is used for insect pests on trees, ornamentals and turf. Its powerful active ingredient, Acephate, works in two ways. First, Orthene 97 Spray kills insects on contact, then it penetrates plant tissue for local systemic control. No worries about rain or irrigation because plants will absorb this product within 24 hours. This product is safe to be applied without a mask due to low vapor pressure, low oral and dermal toxicity, and volatility. Orthene 97 Spray is for non crop area and control, sod farms, outdoor and perimeter spray, trees and shrubs, greenhouse and outdoor floral crops, ground covers, and golf courses.

Orthene Label: https://www.domyown.com/msds/Orthene_97_Spray_Insecticide_Label_2020.pdf

 

[440mag]

Reference Bifen / bifenthrin indoors I drag the spray tip between the bottom of the baseboard and where the carpet goes up under baseboard … I don't recall where I saw the research project where they first confirmed and then showed the # 1 in-the-home "interstate system" by which insects travel through homes indoors is the wide open spaces (in insect terms) of the continuous gaps under and behind baseboards. I was skeptical until I started dragging the spray tip along that gap in a rental place and a year later pulled the carpets up … WHOA!!!!! :shock:

The number and variety of insect carcasses in that space was shocking … been a believer since!

Edit: there are plenty of tile and stone floor areas within our home where there is no wall to wall carpeting and I do use cyzmic there but honestly, ever since I started dragging the spray tip along the baseboard to carpet gaps we never see bugs inside anymore! :thumbup:

 

[440mag]

Question: Does anyone know what the shelf life of Cyzmic CS is?

I am looking and not finding an immediate answer …

Thanks in advance ….

ETA: found this on DMOPC but, sounds sorta boilerplate to me …:

https://www.domyown.com/what-is-the-shelf-life-of-cyzmic-cs-qa-1303.html

Q - What is the shelf life of Cyzmic CS?
Answer:
Cyzmic CS, like most of our bottled liquid products, should have a shelf life of 2 to 3 years if stored in a cool dry place and out of direct sunlight.

 

[bigG]

Thank you all for this thread. I know it goes back a few years, but after reading through the thread I decided to order a bottle of Cyzmic CS. I ordered it from solutions pest and lawn last week and it was delivered in 4 days from the time I placed the order. Plus, they were much cheaper than domyown, Amazon, and Walmart and then the real kicker was the "boxoff5" code shared back in 2018 still worked! Got the 8oz bottle for $24 after discount and taxes. I just sprayed around the outside perimeter of the house and several shrubs and trees in the backyard. Here's to hoping it helps with the mosquitoes that are still going strong in my area and get ahead of the fall spiders and other random bugs looking to turn my house into their fall/winter getaway!

 

[440mag]

@bigG , here's wishing you success!

Mosquitoes are tough and, knock on wood, somehow despite living on a lakeshore we are without them … (my wife gets upset and swears every time I mention that I'm possibly "jinxing" us)

Spiders are an interesting challenge in that, unlike nearly every other insect life form, spiders do not "groom" themselves …

Best of success!

 

[440mag]

Speaking of spiders I made a happenstance discovery over a week ago, on our boat dock.

Every single day (or at least just ahead of any visitors joining us on the dock to party, etc.) I had to go down to the dock and knock down the spider webs. (One thing you never see mention or photos of in "Dock Owners magazines" are the spiders and their webs!!!! :lol: )

Funny thing of it was, the webs were always in the same place but, the spiders were nowhere to be seen - UNTIL I WENT DOWN LATE ONE NIGHT checking on something.

In the middle of each web when the hi-power led floodlights came on was a relatively huge species of orb spider. (Think of a big gum ball only squishier)

So, I grabbed a broom and did the best I could to "scoop-sweep" each big sucker onto the deck, knocked em out with the broom and swept em overboard where the fish came out of the depths to make quick meals out of them!

Now, the crazy thing is that now that's it's been 10 days and no webs have reappeared in those spots

(we do also have smaller, "fisher" spiders and it doesn't seem to matter how many of those you feed to the fish, they ALWAYS come back quickly. But, their nests are not as obstructive as the webs spun by the orb species …)

We cannot / will not use any form of insecticide over the water (I do spray vinegar up under the eaves as it apparently is acidic enough it cuts down on the flying insect presence which is what the spiders are after) and the broom was far from 100% effective so, next I'm going try one of the "Salt-A-Bug" toy salt guns and see how effective they are at "taking out" any species of spider on the dock.

Just thought it is neat to discover that, once you really "take out" an orb spider, other orbs do not seem to come in and take the place of the deceased, as quickly as other species of arachnids do …