Hi @larry626
I see in another post you mentioned Tenacity. The Tenacity label "requires" a non-ionic surfactant. As far as negatives go, check out the following link: https://agrilife.org/texasrowcrops/...04/03/why-are-adjuvants-important-and-what-is-the-difference-between-adjuvants/

"Producers often ask, "can I use kitchen dishwashing detergent (dish soap) as a surfactant?" Dishwashing detergent contains both nonionic and anionic surfactants, and depending on the concentration, there can be antagonism between the two surfactants and the herbicide resulting in crop injury and/or a reduction in efficacy. Dishwashing detergents are not labeled for crop use, so the producer will not be protected if injury occurs. Dishwashing detergent also may leave a residue on the leaf surface."​

 

Baby shampoo works best in my lawn. dish washing liquid has harsher detergent and the de-greasing agents in it

 

I have used V05 shampoo on some spots in my lawn. It seems to work for the short term but does not fix the issue of my soil being hydrophobic in those spots.

 

It's funny that you mention this. I put down some 2100 fertilizer this weekend and I used dishwasher soap suds as a marker, it left burn lines in my grass.

 

It's funny that you mention this. I put down some 2100 fertilizer this weekend and I used dishwasher soap suds as a marker, it left burn lines in my grass.

Might have antibacterial soap. Kill all the good microbes etc needed in the lawn.
Watch out for that in the future.

Hair shampoo could have a high sulfide content as well.

 

I've been wrestling with this for years and this year I forced my annual Lawn budget (account tagged "Green for the Greens!" to allow me to - FINALLY! -

Order 2-1/2 gal.s of EACH:

~ 80/20 Non-Ionic Surfactant; and,

~ Methylated Seed Oil (MSO)

It's gonna be nice not running through all those little bottles of Dollar Store baby shampoo, any longer!

Edit: the only DRAWBACK is, have you ever tried to pour only 2oz out of a 2-1/2 gal jug?

It's like trying to drink a sip of beer out of a keg, on your own - with the tap removed!

 

You should pop a pump dispenser on the top of that bottle.

 

It's like trying to drink a sip of beer out of a keg, on your own - with the tap removed!

ahh... memories.

 

You should pop a pump dispenser on the top of that bottle.

A hundred internets to you, ionic!

Heading to Amazon now to see what is obtainable! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Make that 1,000 internets!

Next day come-back and Edit: jeepers @ionicatoms , seriously, THANK YOU AGAIN. I'm embarrassed to admit the idea of looking for pumps that would / will fit 2-1/2 gal jugs never occurred to me but Lo and Behold, here they be! (tad pricey but, the convenience of being able to buy another 2-1/2 gal jug of blue marking dye and not having to mess with transferring it to smaller, 1-gal containers makes it worth it!) :thumbup:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y9SEY0Q/?coliid=I2F9GYJHQCJOS5&colid=2XZ4RVRPC9P0B&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1

Was Ordering 3 for 2.5gal containers to start with when I decided to shop for the best ones I can find for 1-gal containers as well!

Thanks so much - TLF FTW , Again!!!!!!!