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Cover seed with wheat straw or peat moss?

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#1 ·
I'll be adding compost, tilling, adding more compost, adding seed and raking smooth in 3 weeks. I did an area two years ago from dirt and used erosion blankets with netting. The netting is supposed to be bio-degradable but the netting is still there. I'd rather not use that again for this job.

About half of what I'm doing is on a slope and I'm looking for adivce on what to use to cover the seed bed. I've seen wheat straw and peat moss used. What does everyone think? I'm open to all advice or suggestions of other things to use without the netting.

Thanks!
 
#8 ·
Glen_Cove_5511 said:
Thanks @elgrow. Looking like peat may be the way to go as long as it can protech the seed from washing off a slope. If so, spreading by hand sifting/throwing or spread it by lightly raking? I will not be rolling my seed after lightly raking it in with the compost.
I would rake heavily beforehand and then try to roll or pack in the soil after you put the seed down. Don't roll after adding the peat moss but hopefully it should stick.

Good luck!
 
#10 ·
Not sure of effectiveness on slopes, but I've used peat many times with great success. I'd also roll. Take my word for it, rent a roller and peat moss spreader from Home Depot. Having put peat down both ways and it's night and day. Insanely easy and not messy with the spreader. A compressed "bail" fits right inside and breaks up spreading a perfect layer as you go.
 
#17 ·
My whole backyard is sloped. Last year I did 2500sq ft and had a major wash out very early on. Loads of peat and grass seed washed down. I still had some germination but too much time/money wasted for me to use peat again. I used baled straw.

It rained hard again and the straw held and I had good germination. I did end up with poa triv and am working on that now but it's a pain. But, where did the triv come from? The straw, seed, the soil from limited fallowing practices? Hard to say. For this years renovation I used baled straw from the start. I do get winter wheat but it pulls easily or one mowing knocks it out. Don't listen to me though. I might be the only one on this forum using straw so don't listen to anything I say :lol: (seriously)

I get weed pressure whether I use peat, straw, netting products, etc. I think a lot of this depends on what type of lawn goals you have. Mine are more limited and I'm willing to deal with some triv and annua for more ease during the seeding process.

Bring on the PoaCure!
 
#18 ·
Glen_Cove_5511 said:
Thanks everyone, great information. Due to the slope involved, I've decided to go with this straw product.
I would advise against that product. I've used it two years running and it consistently brings in an enormous amount of weed seeds. The winter wheat you'll grow will be the least of your issues, it will die out in the summer heat. The spurge, goose grass, crab grass, poa triv, etc. will be a persistent problem all season long.

You basically can't get any sort of wheat straw that isn't significantly contaminated with weed seeds.
 
#21 ·
vnephologist said:
Not sure of effectiveness on slopes, but I've used peat many times with great success. I'd also roll. Take my word for it, rent a roller and peat moss spreader from Home Depot. Having put peat down both ways and it's night and day. Insanely easy and not messy with the spreader. A compressed "bail" fits right inside and breaks up spreading a perfect layer as you go.
@vnephologist I intend to use a lawn roller for the first time, so I wanted to get a few tips.

- I will be cutting my grass to 2" when I do overseed
- I will also be seeding bare spots full of dirt in addition to filling out the areas of the lawn that are thin
- My front yard is sloped

Are these used in overseeds where the entire area is bare soil, or does it work when overseeding an existing lawn? And if the latter, is my HOC low enough to use this?
 
#24 ·
TheEggMan said:
Glen_Cove_5511 said:
Thanks everyone, great information. Due to the slope involved, I've decided to go with this straw product.
I would advise against that product. I've used it two years running and it consistently brings in an enormous amount of weed seeds. The winter wheat you'll grow will be the least of your issues, it will die out in the summer heat. The spurge, goose grass, crab grass, poa triv, etc. will be a persistent problem all season long.

You basically can't get any sort of wheat straw that isn't significantly contaminated with weed seeds.
This feels like a punch to the gut. Just finished leveling off and seeding 4200 sq ft. And topped it with EZ straw. I'm on a slope so I thought it was the right play at a reasonable cost. I guess I will have my hands full come spring
 
#25 ·
Utk03analyst said:
Tackifier. I used Pennington Slope Master that I picked this up from Lowes, and it seems to have helped with washouts, I thought about breaking it down in a bucket and then spraying it, but it has done a decent job so far. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Pennington-Slopemaster-30-lb-Soil-Tackifier-Erosion-Control/1000775706
how much of the tacifier are you using? Do you cover it till you can't really see dirt or do you fling it out pretty randomly? The instructions are not that clear cut.
 
#26 ·
Agiuliano10 said:
TheEggMan said:
Glen_Cove_5511 said:
Thanks everyone, great information. Due to the slope involved, I've decided to go with this straw product.
I would advise against that product. I've used it two years running and it consistently brings in an enormous amount of weed seeds. The winter wheat you'll grow will be the least of your issues, it will die out in the summer heat. The spurge, goose grass, crab grass, poa triv, etc. will be a persistent problem all season long.

You basically can't get any sort of wheat straw that isn't significantly contaminated with weed seeds.
This feels like a punch to the gut. Just finished leveling off and seeding 4200 sq ft. And topped it with EZ straw. I'm on a slope so I thought it was the right play at a reasonable cost. I guess I will have my hands full come spring
Nah. I've used it without crazy weed pressure. You'll be fine.