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Central Florida Lowering HOC On Empire Zoysia

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#1 ·
Hi all, I had a landscaper take over my yard for a little over a year since work prevented me from staying on top of my lawn. I now took over the lawn and I want to lower the grass height. The landscaper had my empire zoysia at 4".. It got to the point where the tires would make the grass lay onto itself and everything under the tracks were dying. The grass is very patchy and has a bunch of thatch. I will take pictures when I get home. When I mentioned how bad the yard looked I found out it was his first house with zoysia. He was cutting it similar to St Augustine.

I have recently lowered the HOC to 3" and bagged it while doing so. I plan on lowering the HOC to 2.5" with my rotary mower since the yard is not even. The next notch down on my mower is 1 3/4". Should I work on scalping the lawn down to 1 3/4" in a few weeks?

There are a few spots in the lawn that seem to have so much thatch and clumps of grass from his mower that it killed anything underneath. I do plan on mixing top soil with sand and laying it down in those areas to see if it'll help. If not, I'll resod or pick up some zoysia plugs. I also have a company coming out that will fertilize the grass and keep an eye on it for me.

Any help would be extremely helpful! I'm overwhelmed at this point but I plan on turning this lawn around..
 
#2 ·
@Rudyr89 if there was green grass in the areas where you now see nothing, don't fret. Zoysia will grow back from the roots, rhizomes and stolons. It will take a little while, because the grass has to establish new crowns for the shoots (blades) to grow from, but will be healthier once that happens.

As far as height, I would take it down now as far as you can without hitting dirt. Your grass will grow back in closer to the soil surface and leave you with a nicer turf. You will likely want/need to do this every Spring.
 
#4 ·
@Spammage I'll definitely get on lowering the height this week. I'll need to lower my sprinkler heads as well since they are sitting a little high. Should I still dethatch if I bringing the deck down as much as I can?

@Greendoc That was my concern as well. The HOA here can be quick a pain at times.. It hasn't rained here in quite a while so I think I might be able to beat the rain if I get on this ASAP.

As far as dethatching I'm about to order the Greenworks Dethatcher to help expedite getting this done. Unfortunately, Home Depot and Lowes doesn't rent out dethatchers near me. As for the reel mower I have a neighbor that has a pretty brand new Fiskars 18-inch reel mower. Is that something you would recommend?

Here are some pictures of the lawn. The dark area is some top soil/sand I laid down. If that doesn't work I'll order a pallet of zoysia. That spot had so much thatch the grass is gone lol.

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#5 ·
What you really need is a retiree from the golf course. I do not like to see rotary mowers on Zoysia ever. Even if you get the height of cut down, you will look at a lot of shredding of the leaves unless you raise the height of cut. Problem with keeping Zoysia above 3/4" is all of the thatch. I say mow it low keep it low and not go through the hassles every year.
 
#6 ·
Rudyr89 said:
@Spammage I'll definitely get on lowering the height this week. I'll need to lower my sprinkler heads as well since they are sitting a little high. Should I still dethatch if I bringing the deck down as much as I can?
Depends on what you can get rid of. If you can expose dirt throughout, the dethatching may not be needed. Most of the lawn looks really thick though, so I'm guessing it's going to be needed.
 
#7 ·
@Greendoc You're not kidding.. I know every grass has its pros and cons but what a pain! Since I'm on a corner lot the landscapers see $$$. I plan on turning the lawn around and promised the Wife I'll get it green. I'll lower the HOC and I'll invest in a used reel mower. If it's better for the grass and I don't have to deal with this hassle constantly I'm definitely for it.

@Spammage It definitely doesn't hurt to dethatch since I'm sure the landscaper never did it for me. Should I cut low then dethatch or vise versa?

I appreciate both of your help. I've been stressing over the lawn for a while now.
 
#8 ·
Scalping to dirt with a heavy duty reel is how I address incorrectly mowed Zoysia. In some cases, there are a lot of stolons and excessive rhizomes below the dirt. I did a bad one last year. El Toro Zoysia mowed with a Rotary for at least a decade. Took it down to dirt and let it grow. Your "landscapers" should have known better and run a greens mower on it. Mowing it at St Augustine height was just wrong.
 
#9 ·
@Greendoc Wow, those reel mowers really get up there in price! I did find a mclane 10 blade for sale on eBay not too far from me. If I can't get my hands on that do you think the Fiskars staysharp reel would be good for the time being? My only concern is that my lawn isn't even at all.

The picture below is from a few months after I closed on my home. You can tell here how uneven it was from the start.

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I should've definitely did my homework on the grass but figured the landscaper would be more than capable of handling it. For whatever reason the home builder decided on Zoysia vs St Augustine. Seems like it resulted in more work for me.
 
#17 ·
Can you upload the pictures? I'm very interested being I have this particular strand of zyosia. This will be my first season with it. I want to make sure I don't run into this problem. Mines was installed in November. It should fully take root by the end of spring. My plan is to keep it around 1" to 3/4 depending on how level my yards turn out. My greens mower is currently set A 1" to start. For the first couple of mows I probably will use the rotary mower being the grass has not grown much from being installed. I tell you what its still green!!
 
#18 ·
@Spammage LOL I hear that! No kids here yet so I need to get a hold of all the toys while I can. Unfortunately, the mower sold a week ago and the seller never took down the listing. I'll keep looking on Craigslist to see if anything pops up. In the meantime I might just use the neighbors Fiskars StaySharp reel until I find something. I'll also test out a section with the rotary at 2.5" when it greens up to compare the difference.

I did scalp my side yard yesterday down to 1.75" yesterday. Any shorter I would've taken out a bunch of sprinkler heads. I'm thinking next spring I'll lower the height to 1 1/8" which is the lowest my mower can cut. I'll work on lowering those sprinkler heads as well. The looks I received from neighbors was priceless. Everyone of course has to stop and ask why I'm "killing" the yard. I filled up 12 42 gallon bags. I'm not even halfway done. On the side yard I ran the mower front to back as well as left to right. I ended up trimming everything as even as possible this way.

What a dusty dirty job lol. I'll post some pictures once I'm done scalping the entire yard. I will be dethatching the yard with the Greenworks dethatcher this weekend as well.

@bigmks are you not able to see the pictures in the earlier post above? I see them fine on my end here.