You are giving up some broadleaf control by the elimination of dicamba.

Xtra has 1/2 the other two herbicides that Celsius has but they double rate from 5 oz/A to 10oz/A. Also halosulfuron (Sedgehammer) is 10% rather than 75% as in a bottle of Sedgehammer but you use 1.33 oz of it per acre.

This is meant for those who don’t have large yards since you don’t have to buy 2 different products. But they spend the same amount of money and get less product and control.

Celsius 10 oz is $144 and you use 5 oz/A
Sedgehammer 1.33 oz is $60 and you use 1.33/A

So to spray an acre it would cost $72 + $60 = $132 and you would still have 1/2 a bottle of Celsius and no Sedgehammer.

Celsius XTRA 10 oz is $214 and you use 10 oz/A

So to spray an acre it would cost $214 and you would have an empty bottle.

So in summary, you are giving up some broadleaf control for sedge control and buying separately is the same cost and you still Celsius left.

I have a 2+ acre yard so I use Celsius + Certainty. Sulfosulfuron and halosulfuron both have excellent yellow sedge control, but for Kyllinga, SULF is better.

 

We used Celsius XTRA once on a Pallisades Zoysia project. I was not very impressed with the results and it was way more expensive and with a higher rate, it didn't last long. I still think Celsius/Certainty mix is the best bang for the buck. I also keep Sulfentrazone around for the kyllinga and Quinclorac for the torpedograss.

 

Celsius Xtra does not control Kyllinga. Caution: usage of Halosulfuron will cause a weed population shift to Kyllinga vs Nutsedge.

 

But halo is supposed to treat Kylinga too…. lol. Lawn care is so much fun, isn’t it? So then what do we use on the kylinga?

 

I was wondering the same thing. A lot of money if it doesn't work.

 

Supposed to VS actually effective. I would combine Celsius Xtra with Sulfentrazone if I wanted any actual efficacy on Kyllinga. Here's the truth. I do not depend on a one size fits all does all solution as a professional. I consider Celsius Xtra a poor attempt to be a one size fits all solution.

 

I just ordered a bottle of Certainty to go with my Celsius (and MSO). When applying broadly, do I mix the two at the same rates as if I were applying separately? Or are the concentrations reduced? I understand the MSO plays a factor, so minus that in this case. Thanks.

Edit: trying to do what I can on Dallis in SA if that matters.

 

Celsius Certainty and MSO . No rate reduction

 

@Greendoc MSO with 95F days and Celsius and Certainty? Wouldn’t my SA be yellow and have stunted growth until the Fall?

 

Spring or fall. Not recommended over 85F. I hit weeds spring or fall but not when it is over 85 for St Augustine, Centipede, or Zoysia. I do not need to be that cautious on Bermuda.

 

My plan off attack is this fall and early spring. No way I’m putting a hurting on Dallis this time of year. Celsius won’t even turn it purple right now, stuff is so tough lol

 

I've been reading a lot of comments on this post, and am thinking about buying the Celsius WG and the Certainty. I have a centipede lawn, and use Celsius WG now. Although I'm not a fan of Celsius cause it takes forever to see any results, most members on here consider the two products the go to herbicides for warm season grasses. I've never used Certainty before, but am considering taking the plunge financially to see if the two products together knock out the majority type weeds. It seems like you have to have this product for this weed and another product for that weed. That can get very expensive. I did have to buy Changeup to get rid of Oxalis in my yard since Celsius didn't phase it. Do you recommend using a surfactant with these products, or at different times of the year?
Thanks

 

@sivicman The Celsius/Certainty combo covers almost all weeds. Look for a generic for Certainty (Sertay or Outrider). You should not use a surfactant in warmer weather (especially on Centipede) but it helps speed up the process. It is slow but it is the most thorough kill that I've seen. I have gotten to the point where I don't mind a little discoloration so I still use MSO or NIS depending on what the label of each product shows regardless of the weather. I'll spray in the evening and water in the following morning. I probably wouldn't go that route with Centipede though.

 

I did look into the Sertay in my area, but not that much difference in price. Still trying to figure out why I need a gram scale since these products come with a measuring device. I have been using Hi-Yield Spreader Sticker with my products too.
Thanks

 

Celsius rolls right off oxalis for me without a surfactant. I try to hammer it the best I can in the spring or fall before it’s too hot, but Celsius with surfactant kills it for me.

 

The Changeup worked really good for me. It was recommended to me by a lawn care service.

 

ChangeUP adds Fluroxypyr. Fine if you have Zoysia or Centipede at low rates. Wil fry Bermuda or St Augustine.

 

How much do you use I have 2 acres and a 30 gallon pull behind first time doing it trying to figure out how much I need?

 

@gd67474, it depends on your grass type so be sure to check the label. I use 1oz/1000sf on my Tifway 419 and Empire Zoysia.