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5.4K views 25 replies 15 participants last post by  Movingshrub  
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#1 ·
I replaced my Bermuda lawn with Zeon Zoysia last year. The contractor sprayed the Bermuda with some sort of herbicidal cocktail and much of the lawn was brown within 4 hours. Five days later he installed the Zeon. They took a string line trimmer and scaled the Bermuda, put down some compost mixture and laid the new sod. It did very well but 4 months later I started seeing Bermuda growing in the new sod. The contractor spot sprayed some Fusilade and the Bermuda turned brown. By now it's October and the lawn is going dormant.
This spring I noticed all the treated areas were brown (ie the Fusildae killed the Bermuda AND Zoysia). The contractor came back out and sprayed with entire lawn with an herbicide on 3 different occasions over 2 weeks. Then they removed all the old sod and put in new.
While mowing yesterday I noticed patches of Bermuda starting to emerge in the new sod. Is there any way out of this mess ? I'm really frustrated.
 
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#2 ·
I have also had Bermuda (Celebration) and removed it in favor of Zoysia (Empire). It was all dug out (not sprayed) but I have been told by others on this forum to expect the Bermuda to continue to pop up here and there.

Mine has only been in since April/May 2020, but I do see little sprigs of Bermuda popping up around the yard and in landscape beds as well, so I will be in the same boat as you.......perhaps a shared bit of undesired misery :)
 
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TampaBayFL said:
I have also had Bermuda (Celebration) and removed it in favor of Zoysia (Empire). It was all dug out (not sprayed) but I have been told by others on this forum to expect the Bermuda to continue to pop up here and there.

Mine has only been in since April/May 2020, but I do see little sprigs of Bermuda popping up around the yard and in landscape beds as well, so I will be in the same boat as you.......perhaps a shared bit of undesired misery :)
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Do you have an update on your Bermuda eradication?

Is it advisable to spot spray the remaining Bermuda with glyco? Only got a little bit left, but it is persistent.
 
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#3 ·
I can't help but wonder if your contractor knows what he's up against. One spray & a scalp?? That alone does not kill this beast... it requires multiple sprays back to back to back, and even then a rogue runner may muster enough energy to pop back up afterwards.
I like what Pete w GCI Turf did when he was killing off his common Bermuda portion at his shop. He sprayed with glyphosate but subsequently applied some nitrogen to get any portions of the remaining grass to show its head, only to spray them again with the next app. I think this was a couple month process 😳
It may seem like overkill but if you want to make sure you kill this thing you have to follow this logic: spray, wait to see what else pops up, spray again... and repeat until you feel like you got all you're after. Unfortunately.
 
#4 ·
corneliani said:
I can't help but wonder if your contractor knows what he's up against. One spray & a scalp?? That alone does not kill this beast... it requires multiple sprays back to back to back, and even then a rogue runner may muster enough energy to pop back up afterwards.
I like what Pete w GCI Turf did when he was killing off his common Bermuda portion at his shop. He sprayed with glyphosate but subsequently applied some nitrogen to get any portions of the remaining grass to show its head, only to spray them again with the next app. I think this was a couple month process 😳
It may seem like overkill but if you want to make sure you kill this thing you have to follow this logic: spray, wait to see what else pops up, spray again... and repeat until you feel like you got all you're after. Unfortunately.
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+1

To get rid of Bermuda , you will need to spray it out multiple times with more than just glyphosate, adding some Fusilade in there will help. I plan on renovating my lawn next Spring but will start the kill process this fall as it will help as the Bermuda will be drawing in all it's nutrients to store for the Winter and will draw in the glyphosate/Fusilade mixture better for a more complete kill. I plan on doing at least 3 applications to make sure I kill as much as I can. I am only switching from 419 to TifGrand though but I still do not want any of it hanging around. One thing I have learned with lawn care is preparation on the front end will save you time and money on the back end of ANY project you are planning. DO NOT take any short cuts as you will be kicking yourself in the A$$ later on. When I was in the Army there were the 7 P's Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
 
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#14 ·
Are you documenting this process for the forum? I'd love to follow it.

What do you plan to do after the 419 is killed? Do you plan to dig it out with a sod cutter?

I want to switch from 419 to TifTuf, but was quoted like $10k to just remove the 5,000 sqft of 419! I was hoping to sufficiently kill it off, then just lay TifTuf on top.
 
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#8 ·
Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Maybe I should ask this in a separate thread but is there anything better than Fusilade to kill off the Bermuda? I spoke with Fusilade tech support in the spring and they recommended 1/3 tsp per gallon for spot spraying and indicated this was enough to cover 1000 sq ft. They also recommended adding 1 tsp Dawn dish detergent to act as surfactant. He said I could re-treat every 30 days. Does that seem reasonable to people who have used it?
 
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#22 ·
I'm shocked this many responses and no one has mentioned Fuselade II and Recognition. Recognition is a safener for Fuselade, allowing you to hit it much harder than without. I've had pretty good results with a less potent version of Fuselade (Ornamec, same Fluaziflop AI), but the job isn't fully done yet. You can nuke it with Fuselade if you use Recognition.
 
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