How far can hybrid varieties crawl in one growing season from an established source? 10 feet? I can't find any studies documenting the rate of lateral spread. Let me know if there are any or you have first-hand experience from your fill-in.
I agree that common Bermuda is a beast at spreading. Our first winter at this house we had a lot of green through the winter. With the aid of Celsius and mowing lower we had all beautiful dormant common Bermuda in one season. Other than wild onion in a few spots the entire lawn is a gorgeous brown carpet now.FranksATX said:Its hard to say how far a single edge moved, but 10 feet would be close. I would think it depends on the area that the grass is going to move into. Is there anything there now? If there is some common bermuda there now it will out compete the hybrid for the bare ground.
If you can do it, sprigging is by far the best method of establishing bermuda grass short of sod. I have tried seeding, plugging, sprigging, and agricultural(maintaining the grass how it likes to out compete the less desirable grass). Spriggs cover the largest area in the shortest amount of time with the least amount of headaches.
If you over apply pre emergent it will cause the new runners not to stick and keep dying, I overdid it with the pre emergent and pretty much prevented most weeds, but some areas where i killed old weeds didn't fill in all the way. This upcoming year I will be super light with the pre emergent.M311att said:@FranksATX that encouraging to see those pics. Did those spots have any type of preemergent applied to it? I've had trouble getting my Bermuda to fill in bare spots over the last 2 seasons. This year I am going to skip the pre-m and feed feed feed.
I have two fairly large bare spots that I need to fill in next season. I'm not going to apply any pre-em to those areas after seeing them struggle this year. I'll tackle whatever weeds come up post but don't want to risk another season of bare dirt.erdons said:If you over apply pre emergent it will cause the new runners not to stick and keep dying, I overdid it with the pre emergent and pretty much prevented most weeds, but some areas where i killed old weeds didn't fill in all the way. This upcoming year I will be super light with the pre emergent.M311att said:@FranksATX that encouraging to see those pics. Did those spots have any type of preemergent applied to it? I've had trouble getting my Bermuda to fill in bare spots over the last 2 seasons. This year I am going to skip the pre-m and feed feed feed.
The area has PRG there for cover right now but will be thinning out once the heat comes back. Sprigging will be difficult due to the slope and washout the area gets. I might try it but will be focusing on renovating the backyard this coming season.FranksATX said:Its hard to say how far a single edge moved, but 10 feet would be close. I would think it depends on the area that the grass is going to move into. Is there anything there now? If there is some common bermuda there now it will out compete the hybrid for the bare ground.
If you can do it, sprigging is by far the best method of establishing bermuda grass short of sod. I have tried seeding, plugging, sprigging, and agricultural(maintaining the grass how it likes to out compete the less desirable grass). Spriggs cover the largest area in the shortest amount of time with the least amount of headaches.
I'm going to try oxadiazon this year instead of prodiamine on my sod farm.erdons said:If you over apply pre emergent it will cause the new runners not to stick and keep dying, I overdid it with the pre emergent and pretty much prevented most weeds, but some areas where i killed old weeds didn't fill in all the way. This upcoming year I will be super light with the pre emergent.M311att said:@FranksATX that encouraging to see those pics. Did those spots have any type of preemergent applied to it? I've had trouble getting my Bermuda to fill in bare spots over the last 2 seasons. This year I am going to skip the pre-m and feed feed feed.
Solid plan. Simazine is also sprigging friendly.cglarsen said:I'm going to try oxadiazon this year instead of prodiamine on my sod farm.erdons said:If you over apply pre emergent it will cause the new runners not to stick and keep dying, I overdid it with the pre emergent and pretty much prevented most weeds, but some areas where i killed old weeds didn't fill in all the way. This upcoming year I will be super light with the pre emergent.M311att said:@FranksATX that encouraging to see those pics. Did those spots have any type of preemergent applied to it? I've had trouble getting my Bermuda to fill in bare spots over the last 2 seasons. This year I am going to skip the pre-m and feed feed feed.
@cglarsen if you decide to try simazine let me know. I have a bunch I will gladly share with you.Movingshrub said:Solid plan. Simazine is also sprigging friendly.cglarsen said:I'm going to try oxadiazon this year instead of prodiamine on my sod farm.erdons said:If you over apply pre emergent it will cause the new runners not to stick and keep dying, I overdid it with the pre emergent and pretty much prevented most weeds, but some areas where i killed old weeds didn't fill in all the way. This upcoming year I will be super light with the pre emergent.
Thanks, I bought a big jug of it last year. Looks like I'll be using this as well.TN Hawkeye said:@cglarsen if you decide to try simazine let me know. I have a bunch I will gladly share with you.Movingshrub said:Solid plan. Simazine is also sprigging friendly.cglarsen said:I'm going to try oxadiazon this year instead of prodiamine on my sod farm.