Since I seeded with the 4th along shady strips where the mower wheels run, I see it is now actually filling in nicely without additional seeding.... The back yard where I just overseeded with the 4th in the Spring, now is 90% shade after May, it has thinned out, but not as bad as previous shady grasses tried...So a few days ago, reseeded with the 4th there only, and will see what happens from here, even though it's in the summer peak.... Think it will germinate early, under 7 days...