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What about his presentation needs work? Genuinely curious
I just find him a bit cheesy in his style, almost like an infomercial at times. But I still enjoy his videos.
ah yes, definitely understand that. He also seems to be someone who just has a cheesy type humor in general
 

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DFW245 said:
Bermuda_Rooster said:
DFW245 said:
What about his presentation needs work? Genuinely curious
I just find him a bit cheesy in his style, almost like an infomercial at times. But I still enjoy his videos.
ah yes, definitely understand that. He also seems to be someone who just has a cheesy type humor in general
I like that his videos are shorter and to the point. I enjoy his content but I do see the cheese sometimes (like the clip of him putting on eye protection). :lol:
 

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DFW245 said:
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I just find him a bit cheesy in his style, almost like an infomercial at times. But I still enjoy his videos.
ah yes, definitely understand that. He also seems to be someone who just has a cheesy type humor in general
I like that his videos are shorter and to the point. I enjoy his content but I do see the cheese sometimes (like the clip of him putting on eye protection). :lol:
Oh no I absolutely love his videos, I'm a subscriber to his channel. But the amount of nacho cheese there is immense lmao effective yet cheesy. I'm only subscribed to him and Ryan Knorr....I frequent LCN as well. A healthy does of those three seem to be enough for me. Recently picked up the Lawn tools.....rarely...only because they have a Monaco lawn
 

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I love how the Toro Titan Max is the BEST ZTR out there. Toro has sent a good many of them out to these YouTube channels. It's popping up everywhere when I cruise through YT. Of course a free mower is gonna be the best mower I've ever owned.....

Honestly, that just turns me off from all of them. Once "free" stuff starts popping up in videos, I move on.
 

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I love how the Toro Titan Max is the BEST ZTR out there. Toro has sent a good many of them out to these YouTube channels. It's popping up everywhere when I cruise through YT. Of course a free mower is gonna be the best mower I've ever owned.....

Honestly, that just turns me off from all of them. Once "free" stuff starts popping up in videos, I move on.
To be fair, it is a $6300 ZT, it probably costs double what most have ever used for a ZT. I would hope it's the best ZT they have ever used with that being the case. Got to give Toro some credit here as well for marketing a $6300 ZT as a homeowner model. 26HP and 3100 Hydros isn't bad for that price.

I agree with your premise though, even if the mower is a good value proposition.
 

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nwga_lawn said:
I love how the Toro Titan Max is the BEST ZTR out there. Toro has sent a good many of them out to these YouTube channels. It's popping up everywhere when I cruise through YT. Of course a free mower is gonna be the best mower I've ever owned.....

Honestly, that just turns me off from all of them. Once "free" stuff starts popping up in videos, I move on.
To be fair, it is a $6300 ZT, it probably costs double what most have ever used for a ZT. I would hope it's the best ZT they have ever used with that being the case. Got to give Toro some credit here as well for marketing a $6300 ZT as a homeowner model. 26HP and 3100 Hydros isn't bad for that price.

I agree with your premise though, even if the mower is a good value proposition.
It's really not a bad price but there's some homeowners that will shock you at what they spend to get good equipment.
 

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It's really not a bad price but there's some homeowners that will shock you at what they spend to get good equipment.
I mean have you seen the price on my mower? It's more about the norm and most of those guys weren't running commercial machines previous.
It's good that they are running them now when you think about it because that's gives the viewers more access to what's available, pros and cons of said equipment. Idk what a scag goes for but I have 11k in mowers alone.
 

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It's good that they are running them now when you think about it because that's gives the viewers more access to what's available, pros and cons of said equipment. Idk what a scag goes for but I have 11k in mowers alone.
To me it's more about where they are going then the fact they are going. Outside of the Lawn Tools who have the wooded property outside of the houses that is a couple of acres, how many of these channels that are getting them are really going to be testing a machine like that?

Heck, Conner got one and he has to take it to other properties just to get his required mows in per whatever agreement he had with Toro. He has an acre, but he's not going to run a Rotary on a lawn he's mowing with a triplex.

I don't remember if Knorr got one, but he'll eventually be able to use it with the new property they bought.

Seeing these things running around on mostly flat properties with well manicured lawns doesn't help the buying decision much IMO. Other then making people aware they exist, I've not run across any I can remember where they got one for long term use.

I saw one comparison channel who had a MyRide Timemaster 60" (I think that's the model) and got to demo the Titan for a few weeks.
 

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My favorite youtube channel, which got me into warm-season grass channels, is named Lawn Care Life. You probably heard about it, as it’s one of the most popular channels about types of grasses during the warm season. I find the videos informative for choosing the suitable grass for the lawn. The youtuber, Jason Creel, provides useful tips for equipment, maintenance, and mowing, and I could listen to him talk for hours. It’s a shame he doesn’t have more subscribers, but I understand that videos about various types of grass are not for everybody. I heard about some youtubers who buy youtube views to help their channel grow, but I don’t think he would ever do something like that.
 

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My favorite youtube channel, which got me into warm-season grass channels, is named Lawn Care Life.
I have started stumbling across his videos in the past few months. I like this guy, and he has 1,000s of videos. His central theme is how to start a weed prevention and fertilization business which I find more interesting by the day. He's a very honest person that does not claim to know everything. He does endorse products, but they are limited, and he sticks with the same products (Graham Spray Equip and YardBook and his own products), but he does not force them on you.
 

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My favorite youtube channel, which got me into warm-season grass channels, is named Lawn Care Life. You probably heard about it, as it’s one of the most popular channels about types of grasses during the warm season. I find the videos informative for choosing the suitable grass for the lawn. The youtuber, Jason Creel, provides useful tips for equipment, maintenance, and mowing, and I could listen to him talk for hours. It’s a shame he doesn’t have more subscribers, but I understand that videos about various types of grass are not for everybody. I heard about some youtubers who buy youtube views to help their channel grow, but I don’t think he would ever do something like that.
Jason is a good friend of mine and he has been very helpful in my lawn care journey.
 

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Suprised at the hate for How To with Doc. I get that he's pitching product that he's invested in but Nobody can say with a straight face that the guys yard doesn't look fantastic, so something he does must work. I've learned alot about basic lawn care from him ignoring the product pitch side of things. The one that im suprised people like so much is Ryan Knorr. First off, the guy's yard is KBG. Thats not even a warm season grass so why take Warm Season advice from a guy that doesn't have a warm season grass? Plus he's a HUGE pitchman too, all I see him do is pitch Swardman and his SWAG all the time. Maybe im weird but I'll take advice from a guy with 30plus years of experience as a Greens Keeper if they offer it over a guy that's been doing it for 5 years. Why hate one pitchman while worshipping another? I just dont get it.
 

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Suprised at the hate for How To with Doc. I get that he's pitching product that he's invested in but Nobody can say with a straight face that the guys yard doesn't look fantastic, so something he does must work. I've learned alot about basic lawn care from him ignoring the product pitch side of things. The one that im suprised people like so much is Ryan Knorr. First off, the guy's yard is KBG. Thats not even a warm season grass so why take Warm Season advice from a guy that doesn't have a warm season grass? Plus he's a HUGE pitchman too, all I see him do is pitch Swardman and his SWAG all the time. Maybe im weird but I'll take advice from a guy with 30plus years of experience as a Greens Keeper if they offer it over a guy that's been doing it for 5 years. Why hate one pitchman while worshipping another? I just dont get it.
I do not watch the Ryan Knorr guy so I cannot speak about him. Doc gets criticism here because not only is he a salesman, but he tends to give false information in order to push some of his products. He also says he will never do something and turn around and do the thing he said he would not do.
Doc first started out saying reel mowers are garbage and he'd never get one....
Doc started pushing granular PGR saying that spraying PGR is complicated and granular provides more uniform coverage.
Not to mention all of the false claims of Super Juice.
He also never admits that's he wrong on anything.

What I mentioned above is why some of the people do not like him,

I do not like him because he's an arrogant Douche.
 

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I do not watch the Ryan Knorr guy so I cannot speak about him. Doc gets criticism here because not only is he a salesman, but he tends to give false information in order to push some of his products. He also says he will never do something and turn around and do the thing he said he would not do.
Doc first started out saying reel mowers are garbage and he'd never get one....
Doc started pushing granular PGR saying that spraying PGR is complicated and granular provides more uniform coverage.
Not to mention all of the false claims of Super Juice.
He also never admits that's he wrong on anything.

What I mentioned above is why some of the people do not like him,

I do not like him because he's an arrogant Douche.
Dont forget spraying Negate in a hose end sprayer.
 

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Dont forget spraying Negate in a hose end sprayer.
I missed that one; he used to love a hose-end sprayer,
And as far as his yard looking fantastic... many of our yards look fantastic, and we do not have Andersens shipping us pallets of products for free.
He was pushing that granular PGR to the tune of 130 bucks for an application for a yard of his size. He also claimed it would last much longer than the AI typically lasts.
Also, it does not make sense to order Granular fertilizer online, it's heavy, and shipping costs are added to the price if they claim the shipping is free. Buying NPK locally is more economical.

He is dishonest and consistently exaggerates the effectiveness of his product to sell to unknowing consumers that get wowed by his fantastic-looking yard. And he's a douche!
 

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I get the whole mantra of "I started watching (insert YouTube personality) and started taking care of my lawn using their products and my lawn looks so much better now". So one would assume that their products work good and they know what they are talking about when in reality it was the fact that you actually started doing something to your lawn. People nowadays are so consumed with the name on the bag of the product they are putting down more so than what is in the bag, I am talking about the NPK and not the magic fairy dust they add in there(AKA Humic). I guarantee you could go buy a bag of 10-10-10 and put it on your neighbors lawn and as long as you are watering and mowing regularly it will look way better than if you did nothing at all. To the uninitiated or noob some of these guys on YT can come off as experts but it also comes down to once you know, you know and I don't understand why some people get all bent out of shape when they read negative things about their sacred cows and realize they are frauds or swindlers. If it was me I would be thankful as I am now wiser and can make better decisions going forward. I could go on and on about this subject as I do have a bias and an utter disdain for most YouTube lawn guys as they are pushing expensive (mainly due to shipping costs) products that you can find locally for half the cost.

I do watch Ryan Knorr on the regular just because he reel mows and does some other things outside the box but I feel his videos are a little over produced for my liking. I do watch a few Aussie guys like Lawn Tips, Lawn Porn and Aussie Lawn as they all do something different and keep things interesting.
 
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