You've had one app of glyphosate?
The bermuda could very well survive that, even with the turflon, pylex, etc that have already been applied. I'd be ready for the possibility of another glypho app in 1-2 weeks.
Your lawn was amazing.

 

Yea, I am prepared to do another application of Glyphosate next week.

I'm just worried that I may run a couple weeks too late to seed with KBG, since it takes a few weeks to germinate. But I won't start that until I know this Bermuda is gone!

 

I'm just worried that I may run a couple weeks too late to seed with KBG

Yeah, I'd be worried about that too. Here's to hoping that first frost takes its time.

We have such a short window to get our seeding done. It's almost as if mother nature doesn't want us to grow grass.

 

Make sure you get at least 2 on Bermuda. Mine is taking 3. It's worth being a week or two late to get it right or you'll be back in the same boat next year or year 2.

 

FWIW, that bermuda was looking pretty good it's like being married for a long time, "Cheaper to keep her."

 

You most likely won't get a very successful kill on the Bermuda this fall. Hopefully you set it back enough to get you desired turf grass to establish. You're on the right track with the Pylex. Multiple applications over a few years has been what's been reported for Bermuda control. I checked the label for seeding restrictions and it said you can spray before the day of seeding then 28 days after seeding. Depending on when you get your seed in the ground you might be able to spray the Bermuda another time before it goes dormant for the winter.

 

I'm leaving to head to Myrtle Beach for 4 days in the morning, so I did another application of glyphosate today. If needed, I'll do a third one next weekend.









On a different note, I just started using PGR (Podium) last month (on my back yard for now), and wow -- it really works. I was mowing every 4-5 days before, and it was long when I mowed. Compared to now... I've only mowed once in the last 2 weeks and it wasn't even in desperate need of a mowing. I can't believe it! I mowed Thursday and I was going to mow again today before I leave for vacation, but it still looks like it was freshly mowed, so I skipped the mow today since there was really no point. I cannot believe how well Podium is working for me. PGR isn't cheap, but IMO it pays for itself, since I'm mowing only half the number of times (or maybe even less than half!) per season now, which saves me gas, wear and tear on my equipment, and time too.

I'll post more pics next weekend when I'm home from the beach.

 

Hope you don't get soaked while at MB!

 

We got wet the first day at Myrtle, then it was beautiful after that!

I got home this evening, and here is what the lawn looks like now. I'll spot-spray a few areas that need it, but most of it appears to be dead.

 

I was going to spend the day today doing some work in the lawn, but I woke up to rain. Anyways, here are some photos of what it looks like today. I'm definitely going to have to spot-spray some areas that survived the first 2 apps of glyphosate. My neighbor walked over the day I was leaving for the beach when he saw me outside, and said "what happened to your lawn, man??", thinking I made some kind of fertilizer mistake or something. :lol:

 

I was going to spend the day today doing some work in the lawn, but I woke up to rain. Anyways, here are some photos of My neighbor walked over the day I was leaving for the beach when he saw me outside, and said "what happened to your lawn, man??", thinking I made some kind of fertilizer mistake or something. :lol:

I had the same thing happen to me! I guess those of us who have done our own renovations requiring a total kill will understand that we have to deal with the ugly brown before we get to enjoy the lush green of both the lawn, and the envy of neighbors. :mrgreen:

 

I recently used a Toro slice seeder on my back yard renovation. Now that I'm on day 7 I can really tell that there are places where the seeder either didn't seed or put it too far down. Clear rows despite overlapping and going in 45 degree angle.

Saying that, if I could go back I would save the $100 rental and just broadcast.

This is simply my experience---others possibly have had better success w a seeder. It's still early so maybe I'm wrong.

 

I recently used a Toro slice seeder on my back yard renovation. Now that I'm on day 7 I can really tell that there are places where the seeder either didn't seed or put it too far down.

I plan to both broadcast-seed and slice-seed. I've never done both before, so we'll see how it goes!

 

Today I aerated and then started on the lawn-leveling. I ran out of sand though, so I had to quit for the day. I need to head back up to Home Depot to pick up some more. I have a lot more leveling to do. I'm using 2 parts sand, 2 parts top soil, and 1 part peat moss.

 

I'm using 2 parts sand, 2 parts top soil, and 1 part peat moss.

I like this mixture. I'll have some leveling to do in the future in my front yard but don't want straight sand.

 

I'm using 2 parts sand, 2 parts top soil, and 1 part peat moss.

I like this mixture. I'll have some leveling to do in the future in my front yard but don't want straight sand.

How does one decide what mixture to use for leveling?

 

How does one decide what mixture to use for leveling?

I'm not sure if there is a certain proper mix for different zones/grass types, but this is a mix I've seen a lot online and it somewhat closely matches my soil type (sans the clay), and it works for me. I see some people use just straight sand... I haven't tried that before though.

 

I noticed that I still had a few green patches, so today I did a 4th application of RoundUp.



First, though, there was a lot of dead thatch from all the stuff that died off that I wanted to remove with the power rake.









Afterwards, I ran the Turfmaster with the bag attached over the area a few times to pick up all the loose thatch.



Then I sprayed what I'm hoping will be the last application of RoundUp on the entire area. After that, I let the RoundUp dry and did some more leveling with my mix of top soil, sand, and peat moss. There is still a lot of leveling left to do this weekend. Monday I plan to run the power rake once more over the area to remove any final remnants of dead stuff, then I'm going to slit-seed and broadcast-seed with a KBG and TTTF mix, as well as broadcast some starter fertilizer and peat moss over top of everything.

 

This is a most thorough kill!

Looking forward to your results. :thumbup:

 

This is a most thorough kill!

Yea, that Bermuda grass is so tough!

And it'll be really frustrating if it comes back next summer, so I'm trying to go above and beyond to make sure its dead. :bandit:

 

So today I finished leveling the lawn in the front and back yard, and then seeded and applied starter fertilizer in the back yard. All that's left is to broadcast-seed *and* slit-seed (yes both) the front and sides.

I'm using this stuff for the whole lawn, front and back:







And then I'm mixing in some Midnight KBG in the front:



And Bewitched KBG in the back, since it's more acceptable of shade:



But there is one area around my shed that is *extremely* shady, so I spread some of this around that area just for good measure:







I have a pole saw that I'm going to attempt to elevate the trees some more so that more sunlight hits that area. I'm hoping to get to that in the next couple of weeks. The thick tree area to the left of my shed isn't my property, so I can't do anything about those (except elevate them a little bit... I removed a lot of trees from my property to get sunlight to come through)

After seeding and fertilizing the back yard, I ran the irrigation for a little while and programmed the irrigation controller to water daily for 10 minutes at 7am just to keep the seed moist until it germinates. That's all I have it programmed to run for now, since there looks like a bunch of rain forecasted over the next 5 days. I will readjust the program to water more each day when the rain passes:



Monday I'm hoping to get the front and side yards seeded.

 

We left off last time with me leveling the lawn; Here are a few shots of the leveling on the side lawn





This morning I woke up and took the spring tines off of my power rake and installed the slit-seed kit, which took somewhere between 60-90 minutes







Before slit-seeding, I broadcast-spread some starter fertilizer and some tall fescue seed





Afterwards, I loaded up the hopper on the slit-seeder with the Midnight KBG seed and got to work





I set the blade depth at about 1/3"



Finally, I spread a thin layer of peat moss and ran the irrigation system for a short period, and here are the results







Now we wait! I set my irrigation controller to water a little bit each morning at 7am. Once we get some grass, we'll change it back to 2 days a week.

I'm hoping to have time to elevate the trees in the back yard with my power pruner sometime this week.

 

Go William! :clapping:

 

Now we wait! I set my irrigation controller to water a little bit each morning at 7am. Once we get some grass, we'll change it back to 2 days a week.

Nice job! :thumbup:

Are you only watering once a day?

 

Are you only watering once a day?

Yea. Once a day. But we have a lot of days of rain forecast soon, and its the temps are cooling down a bit here too.