[Confederate Lawn]

These would have to be the worst areas of my front yard lawn. It's warming up and I want my lawn to be nice for summer (some what weed free) It's mostly centipede with some St. Aug and little bits of zoysia. I want to focus on the centipede and st aug. I put down milorganite about 6 days ago along with a bag of centipede overseed from home depot. Wondering when I should start my weed killer? I got some Bayer Advanced All in One lawn weed and crabgrass killer. I have heard about this stuff from multiple people Ref:

I also might need to do some more dethatching. Anyone have any tips on where to go from here to get some fast results? The weather has been between 70 and 80 the last couple weeks with one day of rain.

 

[Topcat]

The way I'd approach it is to put down the post emergent now - the go to post emergent is Celsius but it is not available in the big box stores, but can be purchased online. I am not familiar with the All in One weed and crabgrass killer, but since you already have it, you might as well use it. I'd put down a good pre emergent a week or so after the all in one application to keep the weeds at bay, since they will drop seeds that will have them come back later in the year if not dealt with before the seeds germinate.

I am also not familiar with the "crabgrass overseed" Is this some sort of grass seed, and if so what kind is it? Since you have a mix of three different grasses, but want to nurture the St Aug and Centipede, I'd recommend a centipede grass seed as an overseed.

 

[adgattoni]

I'm no expert, but to me it doesn't look like you need to dethatch at all.

 

[Movingshrub]

@Confederate Lawn - What exactly is a "bag of crabgrass overseed from home depot?"

 

[Cory]

@Confederate Lawn - What exactly is a "bag of crabgrass overseed from home depot?"

He's probably talking about this

 

[WBrown999]

That's a ton of clover! Soil looks pretty compacted as well. Would you consider having the lawn core aerated and putting a post emergent down as well?

 

[Movingshrub]

I was really hoping he was going to reno with crabgrass. Look at the upside, it spreads quick and won't compete with the rye in the fall after the first frost.

 

[Confederate Lawn]

I meant centipede over seed! that probably changes everything! haha!! Can y'all explain a little about the pre and post emergants? and also what's everyone's take on St. Aug plugs?

 

[Ballistic]

The way I'd approach it is to put down the post emergent now - the go to post emergent is Celsius but it is not available in the big box stores, but can be purchased online. I am not familiar with the All in One weed and crabgrass killer, but since you already have it, you might as well use it. I'd put down a good pre emergent a week or so after the all in one application to keep the weeds at bay, since they will drop seeds that will have them come back later in the year if not dealt with before the seeds germinate.

I am also not familiar with the "crabgrass overseed" Is this some sort of grass seed, and if so what kind is it? Since you have a mix of three different grasses, but want to nurture the St Aug and Centipede, I'd recommend a centipede grass seed as an overseed.

Is Celsius about the same as trimec classic?

 

[Movingshrub]

Is Celsius about the same as trimec classic?

They work in different ways, on different (although some overlapping) weeds, and contain a different blend of chemicals.

 

[Movingshrub]

I meant centipede over seed! that probably changes everything! haha!! Can y'all explain a little about the pre and post emergants? and also what's everyone's take on St. Aug plugs?

Are you going for a centipede, st aug., or Bermuda lawn, or are you specifically trying to blend all three?

I'm a little lost on your target end-goal. The answer to that will impact the response you receive concerning pre-ems and post-ems.

Pre-ems stop the weed seed (or even seed you want to grow) from turning into a full plant. I use the metaphor of weed birth control.

Post-ems kill the plant that's already growing and established.

 

[Confederate Lawn]

I think my end goal is to have a nice carpet like green lawn that is fairly weed free. would prefer a mix of centipede and st aug because the seem very similar in growth and color.

 

[gijoe4500]

I think my end goal is to have a nice carpet like green lawn that is fairly weed free. would prefer a mix of centipede and st aug because the seem very similar in growth and color.

You're really better off choosing one over the other. Warm season grasses like Bermuda, Zoysia, Centipede, and St. Augustine don't do as well mixed as the cool season grasses.

 

[gijoe4500]

Look through the warm season section at other people's lawns. Try to find pictures of each different kind of grass you are considering. You can get an idea of what eat will look like. That may help you decide which way to go.

 

[Movingshrub]

You're really better off choosing one over the other. Warm season grasses like Bermuda, Zoysia, Centipede, and St. Augustine don't do as well mixed as the cool season grasses.

100% agree with this one. It will also make your life easier from a chemical and maintenance angle. Some chemicals work for one or the other, not all. Also, management practices and the amount of fertilizer varies between turfgrass type.

 

[Movingshrub]

Look through the warm season section at other people's lawns. Try to find pictures of each different kind of grass you are considering. You can get an idea of what eat will look like. That may help you decide which way to go.

Also, each plant works best in a certain environment. For example, you may love the look of Bermuda but have too much shade for it to be viable.

 

[Confederate Lawn]

Look through the warm season section at other people's lawns. Try to find pictures of each different kind of grass you are considering. You can get an idea of what eat will look like. That may help you decide which way to go.

If I'd have to choose I'd go with St. Aug all the way then. I have a big Bradford pear tree in the middle of the lawn but I've been told St. Aug can do well in shade and sun. does anyone recommend plugs? or seed?

 

[gijoe4500]

If I'd have to choose I'd go with St. Aug all the way then. I have a big Bradford pear tree in the middle of the lawn but I've been told St. Aug can do well in shade and sun. does anyone recommend plugs? or seed?

Is sod an option?

 

[Confederate Lawn]

Is sod an option?
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eh, It's a little pricey for me these days. just spent a bunch of money on a new HVAC system and privacy fence. next big purchase and install is the deck for the pool before summer. I just messaged the wife to grab some St. Augustine seed from the store. maybe do a little overseeding this weekend.

 

[WBrown999]

St. Augustine seed

Is there such a thing?