@spaceman_spiff I reno'd with SuperTurf II and I have been quite pleased. My thoughts on your are below.

- Heat tolerant but will still needs water. If you have irrigation this is a non-issue.
- Establishes very well in shade assuming it some sun. How much sun per day does your area get? Very dense shade would probably be better off with a fine fescue.
- The color is incredible. Especially when properly fed...very dark green. Probably it's strongest trait.
- Good traffic tolerance. The % of KBG helps self-repair any damaged spots.

 

@Allan-00
Awesome, thank you.

I definitely have irrigation. I'm in northern CA, so during July and August, the sunny portions of my yard get absolutely nuked by the sun for 8-10 hours a day. Temps have been over 100 for probably 6 weeks now.

I've got some shady spots under trees that will get 3-5 hours per day, so there's definitely some sun, just not the full exposure.

Pure TTTF is probably best from a sun exposure standpoint, but the self-repair of KBG is definitely preferred so I don't have to overseed my high-traffic areas every year.

 

Wow, I ordered a 25lb bag and it was marked shipped within 24 minutes.

 

I ordered the same from United Seed - good luck! I love United Seed. I got mine 2 days after ordering.

 

I overseeded a lawn with ST2 a few years ago and liked it. Added 4th Mil with an overseed the following year. Doing a reno with it this year.

 

I overseeded a lawn with ST2 a few years ago and liked it. Added 4th Mil with an overseed the following year. Doing a reno with it this year.

Looks great! Yours was one of the first hits that came up when I searched for it.

So when you overseeded, you just added MORE 4th Mill?

 

@GCGreen what's the hoc on those images? It looks nice.

 

Went with a 2" cut. Really liked it at that height. One day a lady walking by asked me if I had installed artificial turf. Ha. Best compliment ever.

 

I overseeded a lawn with ST2 a few years ago and liked it. Added 4th Mil with an overseed the following year. Doing a reno with it this year.

Looks great! Yours was one of the first hits that came up when I searched for it.

So when you overseeded, you just added MORE 4th Mill?

Correct. I added more 4th mil. But the year I bought ST2, 4th mil was either not in the mix or was at a lower percentage than it is now. The ST2 I bought from United recently has 24% 4th mil if I remember correctly.

I did buy additional 4th mil along with the ST2 and plan to add some to the mix to increase the amount of 4th mil I put down in the reno this year. I really liked the impact it had on the lawn when I used it to overseed the ST2 lawn.

 

Correct. I added more 4th mil. But the year I bought ST2, 4th mil was either not in the mix or was at a lower percentage than it is now. The ST2 I bought from United recently has 24% 4th mil if I remember correctly.

I did buy additional 4th mil along with the ST2 and plan to add some to the mix to increase the amount of 4th mil I put down in the reno this year. I really liked the impact it had on the lawn when I used it to overseed the ST2 lawn.

4th Mil?

 

I really think you will be happy with that mix I heard only good things. I don't think Everest KBG is aggressive spreading so it won't dominate over time.

 

I overseeded a lawn with ST2 a few years ago and liked it. Added 4th Mil with an overseed the following year. Doing a reno with it this year.

United Seeds need to change the pictures on their site to these!

 

I've been extremely happy with this blend. On the right is Super Turf 2 planted this time last year. In the left, is Super Turf 2 planted exactly 1 week ago… had germination in 3 days.

For a TTTF it actually looks better cut shorter ~2.5" than growing longer. I don't expect the KBG in this blend to fill in as much as I would like especially in the shade, so I expect some overseeding will be needed to get things thick.



Color wise this stuff gets dark green but it's a noticeably different color of dark green compared to KBG. Bluegrass has that blueish hue to it, whereas this has an emerald green to it.

 

3 day germination? That’s incredible. I am on day 6. Saw some on day 5 and thought that was impressive.

How long before it really begins to fill in?

 

I've been extremely happy with this blend. On the right is Super Turf 2 planted this time last year. In the left, is Super Turf 2 planted exactly 1 week ago… had germination in 3 days.

For a TTTF it actually looks better cut shorter ~2.5" than growing longer. I don't expect the KBG in this blend to fill in as much as I would like especially in the shade, so I expect some overseeding will be needed to get things thick.



Color wise this stuff gets dark green but it's a noticeably different color of dark green compared to KBG. Bluegrass has that blueish hue to it, whereas this has an emerald green to it.

Looks fantastic great color. You don't want to go to thick with TTTF it will probably lead to non stop fungus pressure. Everest kbg is not overly aggressive but will fill in it's a really nice selection. Only drawback is slow to green up in the spring but otherwise a strong choice

 

I've been extremely happy with this blend. On the right is Super Turf 2 planted this time last year. In the left, is Super Turf 2 planted exactly 1 week ago… had germination in 3 days.

For a TTTF it actually looks better cut shorter ~2.5" than growing longer. I don't expect the KBG in this blend to fill in as much as I would like especially in the shade, so I expect some overseeding will be needed to get things thick.



Color wise this stuff gets dark green but it's a noticeably different color of dark green compared to KBG. Bluegrass has that blueish hue to it, whereas this has an emerald green to it.

Looks fantastic great color. You don't want to go to thick with TTTF it will probably lead to non stop fungus pressure. Everest kbg is not overly aggressive but will fill in it's a really nice selection. Only drawback is slow to green up in the spring but otherwise a strong choice

Yes I would agree that it does take its time getting going in the spring but fills in nicely. I had to help it along in the first two years with spoon feeding N in the spring and that helped a lot.

 

I've been extremely happy with this blend. On the right is Super Turf 2 planted this time last year. In the left, is Super Turf 2 planted exactly 1 week ago… had germination in 3 days.

For a TTTF it actually looks better cut shorter ~2.5" than growing longer. I don't expect the KBG in this blend to fill in as much as I would like especially in the shade, so I expect some overseeding will be needed to get things thick.



Color wise this stuff gets dark green but it's a noticeably different color of dark green compared to KBG. Bluegrass has that blueish hue to it, whereas this has an emerald green to it.

Looks great, thanks! My bag comes on Wednesday. Hoping to start my front yard reno shortly!

 

i really like the super turf II. havent fertilized much and its still very green.

 

I overseeded a lawn with ST2 a few years ago and liked it. Added 4th Mil with an overseed the following year. Doing a reno with it this year.

Looks great! Yours was one of the first hits that came up when I searched for it.

So when you overseeded, you just added MORE 4th Mill?

Correct. I added more 4th mil. But the year I bought ST2, 4th mil was either not in the mix or was at a lower percentage than it is now. The ST2 I bought from United recently has 24% 4th mil if I remember correctly.

I did buy additional 4th mil along with the ST2 and plan to add some to the mix to increase the amount of 4th mil I put down in the reno this year. I really liked the impact it had on the lawn when I used it to overseed the ST2 lawn.

@GCGreen just curious, any reason why you picked 4th mil over titanium G-LS?

 

Looks great! Yours was one of the first hits that came up when I searched for it.

So when you overseeded, you just added MORE 4th Mill?

Correct. I added more 4th mil. But the year I bought ST2, 4th mil was either not in the mix or was at a lower percentage than it is now. The ST2 I bought from United recently has 24% 4th mil if I remember correctly.

I did buy additional 4th mil along with the ST2 and plan to add some to the mix to increase the amount of 4th mil I put down in the reno this year. I really liked the impact it had on the lawn when I used it to overseed the ST2 lawn.

@GCGreen just curious, any reason why you picked 4th mil over titanium G-LS?

Honestly, pretty sure it was because I saw a poster on here who did a 4th mil mono stand and loved to look of it.

 

Reno from last fall







I'm currently turning the ugly flower bed in the pictures into more lawn and doing an underground DIY irrigation with 1/2 blu lock pipe. ( it's only 1500sqft) I just purchased more Super Turf II and it has different cultivars for the flower bed so I'm thinking mixing the seed with my left overs from last year to keep everything uniform.

 

@Don_Julio Looks great! Do you use a striping kit, or does it look like that naturally with your mower?

My bag of seed comes tomorrow. Looking forward to nuking my front lawn!

 

I used a striping kit here. But it's stripes really well on its own without a striper.

 

I did united seed super turf LS 1 last fall extremely happy with it. No KBG in that one but a nice group of TTTF

 

I did united seed super turf LS 1 last fall extremely happy with it. No KBG in that one but a nice group of TTTF

I got 3 bags of ST1 with the same cultivars. Great picks for sure

 

I did united seed super turf LS 1 last fall extremely happy with it. No KBG in that one but a nice group of TTTF

I got 3 bags of ST1 with the same cultivars. Great picks for sure

You're going to be extremely happy

 

About 14+ DAG it starts to tiller out. Keep it mowed at 1.5-2” for a few mows and it’ll look great after a month.