[Movingshrub]

Is there a better way to do this?

This area is being renovated so now is the time.

It's 98'x3'. There is a light pole on the far left that keeps me from getting any closer with a sprinkler head.

There is mailbox pole on the other end that will be replaced so it can shift left or right if needed. Lastly, I am two sprinkler heads short from the design; one should be at the driveway edge and the other should be at the light pole. Due to the wiring for the mailbox lamp, I opted to hold off on routing pipe through that area until I expected to replace be mailbox, so, I anticipate putting at least one more sprayer, approximately a foot away from the drive way, which won't provide perfect coverage but will hopefully reduce the chance of damage.

All of the sprinklers are rainbird 1804-SAM-PRS pop-ups and each one has a 15CST nozzle.

 

[Ecks from Tex]

What if you put in a subsurface irrigation system just for that strip?

 

[Movingshrub]

What if you put in a subsurface irrigation system just for that strip?

Does subsurface provide water directly to the roots?

I plan to sprig so I don't know if it would keep the grass wet during establishment, or if it would work during overseeding.

 

[Ecks from Tex]

What if you put in a subsurface irrigation system just for that strip?

Does subsurface provide water directly to the roots?

I plan to sprig so I don't know if it would keep the grass wet during establishment, or if it would work during overseeding.

Yep it's root watering. It would thrive there with established grass but I honestly don't know about seeds. I think you're right it would be a problem. You'd have to hand water but once established you'd be set.

 

[Ecks from Tex]

What if you put in a subsurface irrigation system just for that strip?

Does subsurface provide water directly to the roots?

I plan to sprig so I don't know if it would keep the grass wet during establishment, or if it would work during overseeding.

Also, for some reason, I'm pretty sure I've seen a thread in here recently where it was discussed that similar head placement to yours was not right. I've always thought it wa supposed to be at the edge of the block

 

[Movingshrub]

Yeah someone posted this layout. I am trying to discern what that lay out gets me versus my existing style of layout. The goal is head to head coverage, right? So long as I accomplish that, I wouldn't think center versus edge layout would matter. I may diagram it out to see the difference.

 

[Ecks from Tex]

Yeah someone posted this layout. I am trying to discern what that lay out gets me versus my existing style of layout. The goal is head to head coverage, right? So long as I accomplish that, I wouldn't think center versus edge layout would matter. I may diagram it out to see the difference.

I believe what this gets you is no overspray onto the street and of course head to head coverage

 

[Movingshrub]

If it's 4' x 15' spray heads, with three feet area of grass, pretty sure I am going to end up with overspray since I don't think those are adjustable.

 

[Flynt2799]

So when my house was built the builder put in the irrigation. I always wondered what was done with the hell strip and sadly found out when I attempted to aerate. I have drip line run right underneath the turf. I have to say that I don't mind it because I'm not spraying the sidewalk or street, but I do find myself hand watering once or twice after throwing down fertilizer.

 

[Movingshrub]

I put in the irrigation last year using the design provided by rainbird. It worked for what I was doing, but the priority last year was the sprigging project in the back yard. This time, I need the sprinkler irrigation to be on point. I can add/move additional heads if needed, but want to understand the benefit if I am going to do so.

I used 1.25" SCH 40 PVC for the entire system, with the exception of the flex pipe at each riser.

 

[FuzzeWuzze]

Its my experience that the strip nozzles suck, but thats just me.

I have a lot of 6 foot wide strip(probably 150' total across 3 sections) and the nozzles seem to spray 90% of their water out the side so that they can reach the full 30 feet and barely any forward. Plus they spray tons of water on my sidewalk, if i turn it one way to stay off the sidewalk the other side is on the sidewalk.

The layout someone offered you is the "standard" way of doing it i'd think, you have proper head to head coverage along both sides of the turf, while their images for sprinkler coverage for a strip nozzle head may show perfect rectangle shapes that are 4x30 feet long that's not reality usually.
Its how my house was laid out(from previous owners).

I dont see a problem with your current layout though,

Personally i'm looking to move to Hunter MPR strip sprays in hopes that im not dumping gallon after gallon of water down the curb into the drain. I cant stand the misting of the sprays.

 

[Movingshrub]

I think I'm going to cover my sidewalk with rain gauges and see if I actually have a problem; No need to go looking for a solution for a non-existent problem. I may have gotten ahead of myself by asking for input before doing the watering audit.

 

[Movingshrub]

I did an audit on the far left hand-side of the previously uploaded photo. I ran the system for ten minutes.

I was surprised how much water I got to sides of the sprinkler. This does not seem like a good even application.

A 0.2"
B 0.2"
C 0.1"
D 0.15"
E 1.3"
F 1.3"
G 0.2"
H 0.2"
I 0.25"
J0.25"

 

[Movingshrub]

So I started changing the sprinkler layout. Due to all the rain, this wasn't the most fun task, however, this afternoon was the only time in the foreseeable future where rain wasn't expected all day.


I had time to relocate three heads. I'll work on moving and locating the other five, after doing an audit of the repositioned pop up spray nozzles. I am trying to discern whether I'll need 6" pop ups on the low curb edge to get an even application.

 

[Movingshrub]

I did an audit of the new section, where only the new heads are throwing water into this area, to compare. However, some of the gauges shifted due to the new location of the sprinklers so it's not an exactly apples to apples comparison. The goal in my mind is even coverage, in dependent of where the gauge is located.



A 0.2"
B 0.1"
C 0.15"
D 0.6"
E 0.2"
F 0.4"
G 0.1"
H 0.9"
I 0.3"
J 0.1"

I used the Rainbird 15EST on the end and 15SST through the middle, which throws a rectangle type pattern with the nozzle being the long side of the rectangle, versus the 15CST where the nozzle throws a rectangle, with the nozzle being the exact middle of the length and width.

The nozzle directly in front of the 15SST nozzle received the most water. These have adjustment screws on them. I'm going to try to audit again using the adjustment to reduce the amount of water being thrown onto the street and sidewalk. I'm curious to see what the relationship is between reduction in forward throw relative to the reduction in sideway throw of the water. When I sprigged, I was running the irrigation for 2-3 minutes at a time using rotors. For the sidewalk, using spray nozzles, the GPM is higher per sqft, so I am trying to get the most even coverage so I run the system for 1 minute at a time, rather than 2-3 minutes leading to a soggy area in one spot and dry in the other.

 

[roundrockag]

So when my house was built the builder put in the irrigation. I always wondered what was done with the hell strip and sadly found out when I attempted to aerate. I have drip line run right underneath the turf. I have to say that I don't mind it because I'm not spraying the sidewalk or street, but I do find myself hand watering once or twice after throwing down fertilizer.

Flynt,

I live in Round Rock. The irrigation system was put in either by the builder or the original owner of the house (built in 2012). There is sidewalk drop irrigation. The funny thing is I had the lawn aerated a few years ago, and apparently it punctured the line in a few places (probably 5 at least). I live on a corner lot for a cul-de-sac, so I have a crap-ton of sidewalk for my property. It's also good that I have a McClane Edger. I noticed this year that the drip irrigation by the sidewalk is not doing well, I went and checked and see several spot where there was obviously a puncture and water is bubbling to the surface when that zone is running. I'm wondering if digging up the troubled spots to repair it is the right way to go, or just replace with spray heads. I know that I won't do core aeration by the sidewalks again!

Chris

 

[Flynt2799]

@roundrockag so I opted to just dig the entire drip line up and replace it with new drip line. Trying to patch each hole turned into a nightmare because as soon as I thought I had them all patched, three more would show there face.

I also opted to stick with the drip line vs replacing with spray heads due to water management. Everyone that has spray heads on the strip seems to have the same issue which is water placement. The drip line does a great job of soaking the soil with no runoff. The only downside of the drip line is when I need to water in a fertilizer or something. Just means I get to go old school and hand water.

Hope this helps, gig em!

 

[roundrockag]

Yes, I will probably go that route as well. Might be worth renting a sod cutter to cut the area out, move it over, dig up the old line, replace the line, and then replace the sod. I don't mind doing the hand watering thing when necessary, I just don't want to do it all the time. With my first home, purchased in 1998, I did not have an irrigation system, so I used sprinklers to move around the lawn. That hell strip I used soaker hose to water.

 

[Flynt2799]

Yes, I will probably go that route as well. Might be worth renting a sod cutter to cut the area out, move it over, dig up the old line, replace the line, and then replace the sod. I don't mind doing the hand watering thing when necessary, I just don't want to do it all the time. With my first home, purchased in 1998, I did not have an irrigation system, so I used sprinklers to move around the lawn. That hell strip I used soaker hose to water.

If you are able to find the line you can follow it with a shovel and just flip up that section of grass. Pull the old line out and pop the new one in and just flip the grass back over it. That worked well for me. Only time I hand water the strip is right after putting down granular, drip line keeps it in great shape after that.

 

[tlfal]

When i did my reno back in 2016 I went subsurface drip all over. I have about 850 sqaure feet of grass, shrubs and garden. It works great but there are negatives.
Seeding, watering stuff in is a pain in the ***. I found out the hard way when new sod was installed and i had to manually water it while it was establishing. Because I was lazy some of it died . But I have similar strip (15' x 3') with subsurface drip and when its on its great. No overspray, no watering concrete and I can run it anytime of the day without worrying about wind, sun and other obstacles.