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I emailed Honda with a mower concept and wonder what reaction members might have. After using reel mowers for over 25 years I recently bought a Honda twin blade rotary mower. Its cut is pretty good, but the 4 wheels leave imprints in the lawn that last a good while. I suggested Honda develop a twin blade mower that, instead of wheels, uses front and rear (powered) rollers that can be adjusted to change the height of cut. That should result in a seamless cut across the lawn. An advantage is blade maintenance could be done by any shop the services rotary blade mowers. Honda replied my email would be forwarded to the appropriate office. What do y'all think?
 

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I think it would probably be an improvement, but I also think a rotary mower would never be able to compete with the cut quality of a reel on bermuda.
 

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I think it would probably be an improvement, but I also think a rotary mower would never be able to compete with the cut quality of a reel on bermuda.
I totally agree. It is increasingly difficult locally to get reels serviced. I thought this would be a second-best option for having a smooth lawn.
 

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Toro makes one with a rear roller. https://www.toro.com/en/sports-fields-municipalities/specialty-equipment/prostripe-560
You're right. Thanks for the link. I wonder if the rear roller erases the front wheel marks. It would be interesting to be able to compare cut quality between the single rotary blade of the Toro and the twin blades of the Honda.
 

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This style rotary mower is currently being made and sold in the UK, but like the Toro has wheels in the front and a roller in the rear.

http://www.mowdirect.co.uk/lawn-mowers/petrol-lawnmowers/petrol-rear-roller-rotary-lawnmowers/all-deals-4054/lm-filter-drive-system/self-propelled
 

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This style rotary mower is currently being made and sold in the UK, but like the Toro has wheels in the front and a roller in the rear.

http://www.mowdirect.co.uk/lawn-mowers/petrol-lawnmowers/petrol-rear-roller-rotary-lawnmowers/all-deals-4054/lm-filter-drive-system/self-propelled
Interesting. They have several models. I wonder if Honda will pursue this. Thanks for the link.
 

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ABC123 said:
Toro makes one with a rear roller. https://www.toro.com/en/sports-fields-municipalities/specialty-equipment/prostripe-560
You're right. Thanks for the link. I wonder if the rear roller erases the front wheel marks. It would be interesting to be able to compare cut quality between the single rotary blade of the Toro and the twin blades of the Honda.
The rear roller wouldn't erase tire/wheel marks all by itself but as long as the wheels track inside of the cut, a high-lift blade would do the job. Then the rear roller leaves the uniform stripe you are looking for.

Historically, more blades has not been a significant factor in cut quality. Honda isn't the first to bring such a design to market. Remember the Snapper "Ninja" blades? Deere had a 44" Piranha deck on their mid-size lawn and garden tractors that was a 3 spindle, twin blade per spindle design. While it had its advantages, it's quality of cut was no better than a conventional design.

Adding a blade, especially at a slightly elevated height, can help with mulching performance however. But it's not the end-all, be-all solution either as Toro's Super Recycler machine's have been proving for decades.
 

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Honda already makes an HRX version. Search HRX 476 QX. Not sold on this side of the pond however.

http://www.justhonda.co.uk/honda-hrx-476-qx-lawn-mower.html
Thanks for the link. So I did not have a novel idea after all. Wonder if these powered reel rotary mowers will be marketed to USA home owners. Based on its ad, the Toro rear roller mower is evidently not targeted to homeowners.
 

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MasterMech said:
cwoernle said:
ABC123 said:
Toro makes one with a rear roller. https://www.toro.com/en/sports-fields-municipalities/specialty-equipment/prostripe-560
You're right. Thanks for the link. I wonder if the rear roller erases the front wheel marks. It would be interesting to be able to compare cut quality between the single rotary blade of the Toro and the twin blades of the Honda.
The rear roller wouldn't erase tire/wheel marks all by itself but as long as the wheels track inside of the cut, a high-lift blade would do the job. Then the rear roller leaves the uniform stripe you are looking for.

Historically, more blades has not been a significant factor in cut quality. Honda isn't the first to bring such a design to market. Remember the Snapper "Ninja" blades? Deere had a 44" Piranha deck on their mid-size lawn and garden tractors that was a 3 spindle, twin blade per spindle design. While it had its advantages, it's quality of cut was no better than a conventional design.

Adding a blade, especially at a slightly elevated height, can help with mulching performance however. But it's not the end-all, be-all solution either as Toro's Super Recycler machine's have been proving for decades.
Thanks for the information.
 

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Have somebody make rear universal brackets that attach to existing push mowers. It could replace the rear tires for a roller. Would probably have to figure out hoc adjustments and how to add more weight but it could be possible.
 

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Just get one of these and you won't need to worry about wheel tracks ever again.



https://www.mowersdirect.com/California-Trimmer-RC190-BS550-Lawn-Mower/p62070.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkvGRkIXk1wIVyLbACh2xwgxOEAQYAiABEgKpL_D_BwE
 

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Redtenchu said:
Just get one of these and you won't need to worry about wheel tracks ever again.



https://www.mowersdirect.com/California-Trimmer-RC190-BS550-Lawn-Mower/p62070.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkvGRkIXk1wIVyLbACh2xwgxOEAQYAiABEgKpL_D_BwE
Or a few of these cute boogers
 

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Came across this thread a while back and kinda took some inspiration. Figuring a roller would help prevent scalping just like it does on a reel, I built some brackets and added a roller to my HRX217. I'm coming up from a .75" scalp, and maintaining at 1.25", so built the brackets for that height. Not super adjustable but made it all bolt on using the existing wheel bracket bolt holes:





 
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