[Rule11]

I am getting ready to do a light seed on my back yard Reno this weekend. Here is a list of steps I will take. Please chime in if you see something I am missing or should think twice on.

1) Finish Grade as good as possible
2) Roll to compact to help see low or high spots
3) Grade rake area to loosen up soil, drop my VIP 3 way PRG, drop Scott's or equivalent starter fertilizer,
4) Roll again
5) Apply Tenacity at 5-8oz per ac rate to prevent unwanted species during establishing
6) Water
7) Set my Rachio to water 5 times a day for about 3-5 minutes per run to keep moist.

 

[SNOWBOB11]

Isn't 4oz per acre the typical rate for tenacity at seed down? 5-8 seems a bit high.

Also maybe think about topping with peat moss to help with keeping the seeds moist.

 

[social port]

I agree with SNOWBOB on the addition of peat.

You can use Scott's starter with mesotrione if you want to skip liquid tenacity. Doing so will save some time, and, in my opinion, granular is safer with respect to application rate.

 

[Rule11]

Yes, I knew I would leave something out. That is why I posted. Peat for sure. Regarding the Tenacity that is what the label reads for new seeding. But I will try the granular cocktail with starter and Mesotrione. Thank you for the double check!!

 

[nclawnguy]

If you have in-ground irrigation set up on timer and running 5x a day, peat is a necessity. I usually skip the peat mainly because I've had success without it.

 

[Rule11]

If you have in-ground irrigation set up on timer and running 5x a day, peat is a necessity. I usually skip the peat mainly because I've had success without it.

the peat is to keep the seed moist, so if I can keep moist with short multiple waters is peat a necessity? Just confirming

 

[Turfguy93]

Be careful with the tenacity, from my experience ryegrass can be pretty finicky with it. I would do 4oz/A. 5oz/A is the max label rate for ryegrass

 

[Sinclair]

Peat is cheap insurance.

 

[Rule11]

Be careful with the tenacity, from my experience ryegrass can be pretty finicky with it. I would do 4oz/A. 5oz/A is the max label rate for ryegrass

Got it! I did a 4oz rate out front to try and tackle some Poa spots I have. So a 4oz rate blanket coverage after seed is down, or just use Scott's starter with weed control, it's rate of M is .008%. Thoughts

 

[SNOWBOB11]

It's not a super large lawn so the peat isn't going to cost much. Can you have a successful seeding without it? Yes for sure, but I prefer using it to not.

 

[Turfguy93]

Be careful with the tenacity, from my experience ryegrass can be pretty finicky with it. I would do 4oz/A. 5oz/A is the max label rate for ryegrass

Got it! I did a 4oz rate out front to try and tackle some Poa spots I have. So a 4oz rate blanket coverage after seed is down, or just use Scott's starter with weed control, it's rate of M is .008%. Thoughts

I prefer to spray it but if you prefer granular that would kill 2 birds with one stone

 

[Rule11]

Be careful with the tenacity, from my experience ryegrass can be pretty finicky with it. I would do 4oz/A. 5oz/A is the max label rate for ryegrass

Got it! I did a 4oz rate out front to try and tackle some Poa spots I have. So a 4oz rate blanket coverage after seed is down, or just use Scott's starter with weed control, it's rate of M is .008%. Thoughts

I prefer to spray it but if you prefer granular that would kill 2 birds with one stone

Well I already have the Tenacity, so probably go that route.

 

[TrialAndError]

Do you need to use a surfactant with Tenacity if you're are using it for weed suppression?

 

[Rule11]

Do you need to use a surfactant with Tenacity if you're are using it for weed suppression?

Well I have that as well and will mix as normal

 

[SNOWBOB11]

Do you need to use a surfactant with Tenacity if you're are using it for weed suppression?

No surfactant for new seeding. Add surfactant to tenacity when using as a post emergent.

 

[Rule11]

Do you need to use a surfactant with Tenacity if you're are using it for weed suppression?

No surfactant for new seeding. Add surfactant to tenacity when using as a post emergent.

Got it! Thanks

 

[g-man]

I also had issues with tenacity at seeding. Don't do too high of a rate and don't do surfactant. I think my clay soil concentrated the tenacity.

 

[nclawnguy]

If you have in-ground irrigation set up on timer and running 5x a day, peat is a necessity. I usually skip the peat mainly because I've had success without it.

the peat is to keep the seed moist, so if I can keep moist with short multiple waters is peat a necessity? Just confirming

Not a necessity, but as stated already, its a cheap insurance. I've never used peat, and have been successful with every renovation. I have a pretty long reno thread, in the other forum, detailing a reno from 2014.