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Regenerating Perennial Rye (RPR) grass seed in Canada

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#1 ·
Hey guys - wondering if anyone knows where I can source Barenbrug RPR Grass seeds(or reputable brand/company) in Canada or online US vendor that'll ship to Ontario.

Thanks in advance
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the info guys but I'm striking out with both - HHW and the Target links. HHW doesn't show any RPR on their site and Target is sending me to Barenbrug with no options for Canada shipping at checkout. Speareseeds has lots of info on their site for RPR but can't seem to find any distributors for them.

I saw Roz posing with a giant bag of Barenbrug behind him in one of his posts....hope he can chime in.
Curios to know about his mishap.... :shock: Hope it all worked out for him.

The search continues......
 
#8 ·
Kissfromnick said:

Keep in mind it really light green color.
Thank you - I did try to checkout on that site but no CDN shipping options.
Regarding the "light green color" is that from personal experience and was it a blend or straight RPR? From all the sites I've visited they've stated "deep dark green color". Barenbrug however does not state it on their site - unless if I've missed it somewhere.

Looks like I'll have to reach out directly to Speareseeds and hope they can direct me accordingly.

Much appreciated all your input folks. Thank you!!
 
#9 ·
Lawncrzy said:
Kissfromnick said:

Keep in mind it really light green color.
Thank you - I did try to checkout on that site but no CDN shipping options.
Regarding the "light green color" is that from personal experience and was it a blend or straight RPR? From all the sites I've visited they've stated "deep dark green color". Barenbrug however does not state it on their site - unless if I've missed it somewhere.

Looks like I'll have to reach out directly to Speareseeds and hope they can direct me accordingly.

Much appreciated all your input folks. Thank you!!
I have no firsthand experience but I think it's lighter green compared to an elite KBG. Yeah the product marketing will always say 'deep green' 😉
 
#10 ·
Lawncrzy said:
Kissfromnick said:

Keep in mind it really light green color.
Thank you - I did try to checkout on that site but no CDN shipping options.
Regarding the "light green color" is that from personal experience and was it a blend or straight RPR? From all the sites I've visited they've stated "deep dark green color". Barenbrug however does not state it on their site - unless if I've missed it somewhere.

Looks like I'll have to reach out directly to Speareseeds and hope they can direct me accordingly.

Much appreciated all your input folks. Thank you!!
Yes it base on personal experience I add this to lawn couple yers ago. Alway planting test in plastick cups same time with lawn just to see what I'm dealing with and it way lighter color then Barenbrug HGT or RTF. Really like Barenbrug yellow jacket coating it help lot.
 
#11 ·
Jack_62 said:
I'm pretty sure that Speare seeds uses Barenburg. Speare supplies my local Home Hardware bulk bin seed, and also the "Home Gardener" line of grass seed. Something to check in your area.
You might reach out to @Stuofsci02 he mentions in the post below a source for Spaere Seed, don't know if they have the RPR you seek however.

https://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=282736#p282736
 
#12 ·
Kissfromnick said:
Lawncrzy said:
Kissfromnick said:

Keep in mind it really light green color.
Thank you - I did try to checkout on that site but no CDN shipping options.
Regarding the "light green color" is that from personal experience and was it a blend or straight RPR? From all the sites I've visited they've stated "deep dark green color". Barenbrug however does not state it on their site - unless if I've missed it somewhere.

Looks like I'll have to reach out directly to Speareseeds and hope they can direct me accordingly.

Much appreciated all your input folks. Thank you!!
Yes it base on personal experience I add this to lawn couple yers ago. Alway planting test in plastick cups same time with lawn just to see what I'm dealing with and it way lighter color then Barenbrug HGT or RTF. Really like Barenbrug yellow jacket coating it help lot.
This is helpful and good to know,
Very much appreciated.
 
#13 ·
Are you hung up on Barenbrug? DLF Pickseed looks to have a decent selection of professional turf seed. OSC Seeds is another source in Ontario.

DLF will sell to homeowners. I've reach out to the rep near me. You can find your closest rep on their site. @BBLOCK recently bought some and seeded with it recently.
 
#14 ·
Hey! Okay, sorry for the delay on this. I've had a hell of a Spring, super busy doing all sorts of other nonsense, and have slipped on the lawn posts. Lawn is looking good though! I'll post soon.

Here's where I got my RPR from a few years ago. Not sure if the still carry it, but they were local. In North York, I believe.

https://www.pricelessproducts.com/item.php?ID=920&n=Barenbrug-RPR-Perennial-Rye
 
#15 ·
I used the RPR last season for a backyard overseed. I can't attest to the regenerative aspects yet, but it's a pretty great color for my fescue overseed so far this spring. Germinated fast, quick to establish and mostly survived significant vole and snow mold damage. I'll know more about the the spread in a few weeks to see how it fills in said damage. if I dont follow up, please give me a nudge.
 
#16 ·
RozWeston said:
Hey! Okay, sorry for the delay on this. I've had a hell of a Spring, super busy doing all sorts of other nonsense, and have slipped on the lawn posts. Lawn is looking good though! I'll post soon.

Here's where I got my RPR from a few years ago. Not sure if the still carry it, but they were local. In North York, I believe.

https://www.pricelessproducts.com/item.php?ID=920&n=Barenbrug-RPR-Perennial-Rye
Thanks Roz....Will look into them. Being busy can be a good thing...and then you can get out on the lawn and decompress!! Glad the lawn is looking good and looking forward to your posts.

Frequent listener to your morning show as well :D

Cheers
 
#17 ·
SnootchieBootchies said:
I used the RPR last season for a backyard overseed. I can't attest to the regenerative aspects yet, but it's a pretty great color for my fescue overseed so far this spring. Germinated fast, quick to establish and mostly survived significant vole and snow mold damage. I'll know more about the the spread in a few weeks to see how it fills in said damage. if I dont follow up, please give me a nudge.
Happy to hear...the regenerative feature is what I'm interested in, Keep us posted on your outcomes/observations.

Cheers.
 
#18 ·
Harts said:
Are you hung up on Barenbrug? DLF Pickseed looks to have a decent selection of professional turf seed. OSC Seeds is another source in Ontario.

DLF will sell to homeowners. I've reach out to the rep near me. You can find your closest rep on their site. @BBLOCK recently bought some and seeded with it recently.
Thanks Harts. Barenbrug is my preferred choice and will get on touch with DLF if I strike out.
Very much appreciate the information,

Cheers!
 
#19 ·
Www.Oscturf.com
Ontario Seed Company changed my game compared to ordering from the US...literally ended up 1/3 cost and they are a Canadian distributor of Jacklyn Seeds so plenty of good ntep rated cultivars.

I ordered the self healing perenial called CSI I think and a bunch of other grass cultivars 5lbs of this 5lbs of that...had to get the new KBG Champion and the 3 way blend of perenial Rye.

Anyway they are the place for seed and arrives next day or 2
 
#20 ·
Here is an example of the perenial Rye cultivars I got from OSC. I planned on only overseeding the back yard but late late fall decided to scalp 2 or 3 mowers widths of my front lawn along the driveway and overseed with peat moss...AND IT WAS 2ND WEEK OF OCTOBER IN MONTREAL CANADA....Think about that....here is a pic from December right before the snow started to stay all year showing the line between the new cultivars and original Rye *** mix.
The new cultivar is the left side of the pic....I was sure it was too late, the grass was mostly dormant. And it would be dead by spring..but nope AND I put down pre emergent on those baby roots the spring and it's still doing amazing. The power of modern genetics....except the line is a little noticeable to this day...lol
 
#21 ·
Lawncrzy said:
SnootchieBootchies said:
I used the RPR last season for a backyard overseed. I can't attest to the regenerative aspects yet, but it's a pretty great color for my fescue overseed so far this spring. Germinated fast, quick to establish and mostly survived significant vole and snow mold damage. I'll know more about the the spread in a few weeks to see how it fills in said damage. if I dont follow up, please give me a nudge.
Happy to hear...the regenerative feature is what I'm interested in, Keep us posted on your outcomes/observations.

Cheers.
Out of curiosity, if the regenerative part is what interests you, why not KBG?
 
#22 ·
rjjrmiller said:
Here is an example of the perenial Rye cultivars I got from OSC. I planned on only overseeding the back yard but late late fall decided to scalp 2 or 3 mowers widths of my front lawn along the driveway and overseed with peat moss...AND IT WAS 2ND WEEK OF OCTOBER IN MONTREAL CANADA....Think about that....here is a pic from December right before the snow started to stay all year showing the line between the new cultivars and original Rye *** mix.
The new cultivar is the left side of the pic....I was sure it was too late, the grass was mostly dormant. And it would be dead by spring..but nope AND I put down pre emergent on those baby roots the spring and it's still doing amazing. The power of modern genetics....except the line is a little noticeable to this day...lol
Thanks for the information - happy to hear about the cost and not have to worry about US$$, customs etc. Congrats on the success of such a late overseed - looks awesome and a great cultivar.
 
#23 ·
Sinclair said:
Lawncrzy said:
SnootchieBootchies said:
I used the RPR last season for a backyard overseed. I can't attest to the regenerative aspects yet, but it's a pretty great color for my fescue overseed so far this spring. Germinated fast, quick to establish and mostly survived significant vole and snow mold damage. I'll know more about the the spread in a few weeks to see how it fills in said damage. if I dont follow up, please give me a nudge.
Happy to hear...the regenerative feature is what I'm interested in, Keep us posted on your outcomes/observations.

Cheers.
Out of curiosity, if the regenerative part is what interests you, why not KBG?
Hey man I hear you about the KBG. I did a Reno of PRG last fall and it looks amazing. Wanted to use the same for the heavy traffic areas - for consistency and durability.
 
#24 ·
See if you can get hold of CSI Rye by Jacklyn, it's also a creeping type and dark in colour plus fine bladed. I'm fairly sure it's available in Canada, I recall one of the journals mentioning it. I think it was Babameca's.

The other one I know of is Torsion by Mountain View Seeds, creeping, dark and fine bladed.

SR4600 was another from Oregon but it's no longer being farmed.
 
#25 ·
RCUK said:
See if you can get hold of CSI Rye by Jacklyn, it's also a creeping type and dark in colour plus fine bladed. I'm fairly sure it's available in Canada, I recall one of the journals mentioning it. I think it was Babameca's.

The other one I know of is Torsion by Mountain View Seeds, creeping, dark and fine bladed.

SR4600 was another from Oregon but it's no longer being farmed.
@Lawncrzy try Graham Turf. They have CSI listed on their website.
 
#26 ·
Lawncrzy said:
SnootchieBootchies said:
I used the RPR last season for a backyard overseed. I can't attest to the regenerative aspects yet, but it's a pretty great color for my fescue overseed so far this spring. Germinated fast, quick to establish and mostly survived significant vole and snow mold damage. I'll know more about the the spread in a few weeks to see how it fills in said damage. if I dont follow up, please give me a nudge.
Happy to hear...the regenerative feature is what I'm interested in, Keep us posted on your outcomes/observations.

Cheers.
Quick update. Still TBD. Vole and snow mold damage has filled in, but not sure if that's just tillering or actual spread. I have an area that dies late fall every spring due to dense shade that I'm monitoring how that it's getting late spring sun. Still great color on the RPR. Spring weed influx has been extremely light this year, outside of over winter few. Maybe handful of dandelions so far at this point.