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Trying to find a powered reel and it's a bit overwhelming. Most seem to stop around 1in. Could we possibly make a sticky in this forum that could have sections and short descriptions of types of reels? Like post the manufactures and model #s with pros and cons of each?
 

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ABC123 said:
Trying to find a powered reel and it's a bit overwhelming. Most seem to stop around 1in. Could we possibly make a sticky in this forum that could have sections and short descriptions of types of reels? Like post the manufactures and model #s with pros and cons of each?
I think most of your TruCut's, McClane's and maybe the California Trimmers will cut in that HOC range you are looking for. Most of the greens mowers will MAX out around 1".
 

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The John Deere 220SL and 260SL can go as high as 1.125" with the front roller in the position closest to the reel. The QA5 cutting head on the JD 220E can go up to 1.5".
 

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QA - Quick Adjust
5 - Diameter of the reel

JD also makes a QA7 that is found on their larger triplex and fairway mowers. The QA5 and QA7 are JD's current cutting unit design.

I'm not sure on the 220c max HOC but believe you are correct at ~1.0". If you need to go higher you should be able to change out the front roller to the larger 3" one.
 

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There's a greensmaster flex21 for sale local with a crommer blade? Is this mower still limited to .98 or does it have options to raise HOC?

Is a groomer needed if I own a bluebird dethatcher?
 

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A groomer is a nice feature to have and will help leave a slightly cleaner cut on KBG but is not needed or required. I have no experience with the Toro's, but others will chime in.
 

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There's a greensmaster flex21 for sale local with a crommer blade? Is this mower still limited to .98 or does it have options to raise HOC?

Is a groomer needed if I own a bluebird dethatcher?
I don't think the Toro Flex mowers go that high, but I could be wrong. I thought they topped out around 1/2".
 

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ABC123 said:
There's a greensmaster flex21 for sale local with a crommer blade? Is this mower still limited to .98 or does it have options to raise HOC?

Is a groomer needed if I own a bluebird dethatcher?
I don't think the Toro Flex mowers go that high, but I could be wrong. I thought they topped out around 1/2".
Correct. Found a spec sheet that said 3/4in with larger roller
 

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The standard Toro GM1600 is suppose to go up to 1.25".
Correct. It looks like the adjustment mechanism is pretty much the same as a GM1000, but the front roller diameter is 1/2" larger - so you get half that (1/4") in additional HOC.
 

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You need to stick with the tru cut, mcclane, cal trimmer for 1.5" -2.5" cut height. I have a tru cut c27 and toro gm1600. There is no perfect mower out there. The trucut does a decent job at a reasonable price. Backlapping is easy, just wished it had more adjustment and a solid rear drive roller
 

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It looks like the JD 220E might only go as high as 3/4". There was some confusion as a chart showed that the QA5 cutting unit could go to 1.42", but there was a note above the chart that said:

NOTE: Height of cut range for the 180 E-Cut™ Hybrid and 220 E-Cut™ Hybrid mowers is 0-19 mm (0.00-0.75 in.).

I guess its a good thing thats about where i want it :?
 

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gatormac2112 said:
It looks like the JD 220E might only go as high as 3/4". There was some confusion as a chart showed that the QA5 cutting unit could go to 1.42", but there was a note above the chart that said:

NOTE: Height of cut range for the 180 E-Cut™ Hybrid and 220 E-Cut™ Hybrid mowers is 0-19 mm (0.00-0.75 in.).

I guess its a good thing thats about where i want it :?
The 220E can definitely be adjusted above 0.75" - I would guess up to the 1.42" stated in the manual (with a GTC and the front roller in position 7). I suspect that note is there because the clip rate cannot be adjusted beyond 0.75" - despite the cutting unit having a much wider HOC adjustment range. See the Adjusting Frequency of Clip (FOC) section of the manual.

They say that because ideal reel mowing exists when the FOC = HOC. The textbooks will say that you technically do not get an ideal cut when HOC ≠ FOC. To learn more about how clip rate affects the cut, this is a good read.

If you look at the clip specs for some other greens mowers, you will notice the 220E has a very generous FOC adjustment range, so it is actually very well suited for mowing at the HOC's most of us here are dealing with:

  • GM1000/1600 = 0.16" with 11-blade reel (0.25" w/optional clip kit), 0.23" with 8-blade reel (0.34" w/clip kit)
  • JD 220/260SL = 0.18" with 11-blade reel (0.29" with 7-blade reel)
  • JD 220E = 0.16-0.48" with 11-blade reel, 0.25-0.75" with 7-blade reel

For those that don't know, the JD 220E hybrid has an adjustable FOC because the reel is driven with an electric motor. The reel is geared with the drum drive on a traditional greens mower.
 

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Excellent post Ware! :thumbsup:
The QA5 cutting unit on the 220E is the same unit on my 2500B triplex. The only difference is the way the yoke mounts to the machine. They will go up to about 1.5. Here they are set at 1 7/16"

 

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Trying to figure out where to buy a used gm1600 from, anybody have any pointers or places online that are reasonable?

I live in Minnesota so I'd probably have to purchase from eBay or an auction site and have it shipped.
 

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Trying to figure out where to buy a used gm1600 from, anybody have any pointers or places online that are reasonable?

I live in Minnesota so I'd probably have to purchase from eBay or an auction site and have it shipped.
I would start here.
 
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