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Preparing for leveling next year

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So next year i will level. Have a few questions if anyone could help.

I placed some markers in the grass to point out what i'm talking about. The dips in the grass are so severe if i truly level it it will completely cover areas of the grass. Is that something i need to avoid or can i full on dump sand in those areas?

My hill has severe leveling issues to. I'm concerned about the sand washing away, is there anything i can do?





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gatormac2112 said:
My having Zoysia worries me a little, don't want to have a beach through July :lol:
That's why I do it early - so I don't have a beach in July. :D
Ware said:
gatormac2112 said:
My having Zoysia worries me a little, don't want to have a beach through July :lol:
That's why I do it early - so I don't have a beach in July. :D
So then it wouldn't be too much on the lawn to scalp it down to 1/2", verticut (do I really need to do this if I scalp?), aerate, then level with sand all on the same weekend? If I'm putting down pre-e as early as mid February, isn't aerating a month later going to screw that up?

I'm not sure when green up occurs here in north alabama....I've never cared to notice before.
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gatormac2112 said:
So then it wouldn't be too much on the lawn to scalp it down to 1/2", verticut (do I really need to do this if I scalp?), aerate, then level with sand all on the same weekend? If I'm putting down pre-e as early as mid February, isn't aerating a month later going to screw that up?

I'm not sure when green up occurs here in north alabama....I've never cared to notice before.
If you have been maintaining at 2.5", the turf will likely be very stemmy (you'll see a lot of bare ground) after you scalp to 1/2" . If that's the case, verticutting won't do much for you.


Where veritcutting really helps is when you've been maintaining a low HOC and the canopy is still very dense after a scalp:


Many people level mid-summer, but I like to get it out of the way on the front end of the season - but again, that's just personal preference. :thumbup:
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Ware said:
gatormac2112 said:
So then it wouldn't be too much on the lawn to scalp it down to 1/2", verticut (do I really need to do this if I scalp?), aerate, then level with sand all on the same weekend? If I'm putting down pre-e as early as mid February, isn't aerating a month later going to screw that up?

I'm not sure when green up occurs here in north alabama....I've never cared to notice before.
If you have been maintaining at 2.5", the turf will likely be very stemmy (you'll see a lot of bare ground) after you scalp to 1/2" . If that's the case, verticutting won't do much for you.


Where veritcutting really helps is when you've been maintaining a low HOC and the canopy is still very dense after a scalp:


Many people level mid-summer, but I like to get it out of the way on the front end of the season - but again, that's just personal preference. :thumbup:
Awesome. As always, thanks for the education. I will scalp to 1/2", aerate, then level with sand and pray :D
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If you have been maintaining at 2.5", the turf will likely be very stemmy (you'll see a lot of bare ground) after you scalp to 1/2" . If that's the case, verticutting won't do much for you.
I would like to add a caveat to this as my lawn was at or around 2.5" when I started this Spring and I verticut my lawn and it removed A LOT of material from the lawn. My way of thinking when it comes to verticutting your lawn in the Spring time is that the more material you remove early on the less chance of it creating a problem later in the year as it gives you a larger buffer zone to play with. You might want to make a judgement call once you get it all scalped down and see how much build up you actually have.
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Stemmy Bermuda is exactly what I was up against on my lawn and I opted to use the overseeder and "dethatch"/v-cut it a bit even so late in the season. I have overseeded with annual rye for winter cover and will deal with any negative consequences next season. My lawn was over 4" when I took over and my last cut was right at 2". I could see bare ground in some areas, not so much in others.



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Mowed the lawn again today with the rotary, man it is really bumpy and not level at all. Going to be a major project next spring. One dumb question: I have several weak areas that are thinner, with the blades growing horizontal instead of vertical and also having more weeds pop up in those areas. I'm concerned that when I scalp and level these problem areas will persist as these have been there since the sod settled in a year ago.

Is there anything special to do to these areas or is scalping, verticutting and/or aerating and leveling going to be enough? I'm afraid sand covering these areas will never fill in.



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gatormac2112 said:
Mowed the lawn again today with the rotary, man it is really bumpy and not level at all. Going to be a major project next spring. One dumb question: I have several weak areas that are thinner, with the blades growing horizontal instead of vertical and also having more weeds pop up in those areas. I'm concerned that when I scalp and level these problem areas will persist as these have been there since the sod settled in a year ago.

Is there anything special to do to these areas or is scalping, verticutting and/or aerating and leveling going to be enough? I'm afraid sand covering these areas will never fill in.
see the chewed ends ....one thing you'll not see on the reel. you might want to poke around (literally) to see if rocks or debri is below.
jayhawk said:
gatormac2112 said:
Mowed the lawn again today with the rotary, man it is really bumpy and not level at all. Going to be a major project next spring. One dumb question: I have several weak areas that are thinner, with the blades growing horizontal instead of vertical and also having more weeds pop up in those areas. I'm concerned that when I scalp and level these problem areas will persist as these have been there since the sod settled in a year ago.

Is there anything special to do to these areas or is scalping, verticutting and/or aerating and leveling going to be enough? I'm afraid sand covering these areas will never fill in.
see the chewed ends ....one thing you'll not see on the reel. you might want to poke around (literally) to see if rocks or debri is below.
Yeah I've been mowing with a push reel all summer long, but these last few mowings of the year I'm doing with a rotary as it about kills me pushing that reel. Starting next spring I'm all in on the greens mower.
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