[cnet24]

I believe there was a topic similar to this in the past but wasn't quite able to find it, and I figured others could benefit from this as well. I purchased the 20V Chapin Backpack sprayer this past year and have started applying my own chemicals with decent success. I see around this forum, on YouTube, etc people combining different chemicals into a single application. I also know, however you cannot simply just mix any chemical together and expect it to mix correctly (jar test). However, I want to get more out of my time spraying just PGR, Pre-Em, etc.

So my question is- what are some of the tried and true combinations that you spray regularly on your yard? What mix rates do you use? Why do you mix these together/what is the thought process behind it? I'm looking to learn more about this topic to get more out of my applications!

My thoughts are also if it gains enough traction, @Ware can pin as a popular thread as a post to refer to later.

 

[Movingshrub]

Princep 4L at 0.75oz per 1k, prodiamine 0.27oz (0.75lb/acre), and monument at 10-15grams per acre. I sprayed this for my winter pre/post-em application.

I've also done Princep at 0.75oz/1k and prodiamine at 1.75lb/acre.

 

[Llano Estacado]

I've only done it once so far. But Celsius WG and MSO(methylated seed oil) is supposed to be a good combo. The MSO helps break down barrier on the leaf tissue so it can absorb the Celsius better. At least that what the gentleman at SiteOne told me.

I used the medium label rate of Celsius and added 1 oz of MSO per gallon of water needed to spray Celsius on my yard.

 

[jonthepain]

Celcius + mso is a great combination. 1 oz mso per gallon sounds high, though. I think the celcius label calls for a third of an ounce.

When it's hot i switch out nis for mso.

This time of year I'm mixing celcius with dismiss, no mso or nis. Hi rate c and low rate d. Gets grassy, broadleaf, and sedges in one shot.

 

[Llano Estacado]

Celcius + mso is a great combination. 1 oz mso per gallon sounds high, though. I think the celcius label calls for a third of an ounce.

Would be interested in the MSO ratio per gallon. The 1 oz per gallon is what the man at SiteOne told me, best I remember. I used around 5 oz in roughly 5 gallons of water to spray 4700 sq ft lawn last app. With the small amount left over I feel I was pretty close to 1 oz of MSO per 1000 sq ft. Did my app 10 days ago and haven't seen any ill affects on the turf.. but haven't really noticed any dead weeds yet either. I know Celsius is a slow kill but I should start noticing something pretty soon right?

 

[Greendoc]

Celsius by itself show me it is working 14-21 days later. If I need faster effects, Celsius is combined with Speedzone or Dismiss or Quicksilver. Quicksilver is Carfentrazone, the stuff that makes Speedzone more than just Three Way ester. Quicksilver is my preferred additive when spraying in hotter weather. Most lawns tolerate it without scorching. It does do some damage to sedges, so I add it to Certainty for faster action in hotter weather.

1 oz per gallon of MSO in a broadcast spray mix is not excessive. There are risks if that is used as a spot spray. Mostly because I have seen time and time again that a spot spray will apply the equivalent of 2-4 gallons per 1000 sq ft unless it is being applied through a @dfw_pilot style hand piece or else my regulated and gauged hand piece. The twist to adjust nozzles just put out a lot of liquid in a small spot.

 

[jonthepain]

I defer to greendoc.

 

[Greendoc]

I tend to leave out Dismiss once it gets over 85. Switch to Quicksilver at that time. Dismiss is my favorite for heating up a spray when it is under 80 and there is no sun. It can be rather burning if applied in hot weather. My normal way to use it involves making 3 4 oz per acre applications putting down the last one before it gets over 85.

 

[cnet24]

What is everyone spraying with their PGR? I've seen iron, fertilizer, and others mentioned. I'd love to add a little more to my PGR apps to back more punch.

 

[SGrabs33]

What is everyone spraying with their PGR? I've seen iron, fertilizer, and others mentioned. I'd love to add a little more to my PGR apps to back more punch.

I add FAS to mine.

 

[Colonel K0rn]

What is everyone spraying with their PGR? I've seen iron, fertilizer, and others mentioned. I'd love to add a little more to my PGR apps to back more punch.

I add FAS to mine.

Are you going to be making the transition to FEature? My grass is still ridiculously green from the application I made almost 20 days ago. BTW @cnet24 I'd recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. Use 2 oz/M.

 

[SGrabs33]

What is everyone spraying with their PGR? I've seen iron, fertilizer, and others mentioned. I'd love to add a little more to my PGR apps to back more punch.

I add FAS to mine.

Are you going to be making the transition to FEature? My grass is still ridiculously green from the application I made almost 20 days ago. BTW cnet24 I'd recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. Use 2 oz/M.

I'm definatley interested in trying it out but I already have a lot of FAS left(thanks a lot @Mightyquinn :lol. I currently only spray it in my backyard where there is no concrete to stain. I also haven't quite honed in on the ideal dosage because I haven't really noticed a drastic increase in green yet. Through I have only used FAS 3 times now (2 this year).

 

[cnet24]

@Colonel K0rn do you have a link for this? And I'm guessing this is an iron product based on the clever product name?

 

[Colonel K0rn]

@Colonel K0rn do you have a link for this? And I'm guessing this is an iron product based on the clever product name?

No joke here, MQ and I got our 3# bags from ePest Hero. $20 and free shipping.

 

[SCGrassMan]

@Greendoc I have 2,4D and also some Celsius. If I were going to buy one container of herbicide that would add to the above mix and or would use by itself to control wedges, would you choose Dismiss or Certainty?

I'm leaning toward Dismiss because it can be used in beds. I plan on ultimately getting both but can only afford one or the other right now.

 

[Steverino]

I add FAS to mine.

Are you going to be making the transition to FEature? My grass is still ridiculously green from the application I made almost 20 days ago. BTW cnet24 I'd recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. Use 2 oz/M.

I'm definatley interested in trying it out but I already have a lot of FAS left(thanks a lot @Mightyquinn :lol. I currently only spray it in my backyard where there is no concrete to stain. I also haven't quite honed in on the ideal dosage because I haven't really noticed a drastic increase in green yet. Through I have only used FAS 3 times now (2 this year).

I've got ya covered for one round if you want to try it. I work in Apex and can bring it tomorrow if ya PM for my location....
I had never gotten results with FAS like I have with this....

 

[Colonel K0rn]

Are you going to be making the transition to FEature? My grass is still ridiculously green from the application I made almost 20 days ago. BTW cnet24 I'd recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. Use 2 oz/M.

I'm definatley interested in trying it out but I already have a lot of FAS left(thanks a lot @Mightyquinn :lol. I currently only spray it in my backyard where there is no concrete to stain. I also haven't quite honed in on the ideal dosage because I haven't really noticed a drastic increase in green yet. Through I have only used FAS 3 times now (2 this year).

I've got ya covered for one round if you want to try it. I work in Apex and can bring it tomorrow if ya PM for my location....
I had never gotten results with FAS like I have with this....

Another satisfied customer Credit goes to Greendoc. Not tagging him because he's probably got a butt ton of notifications.

 

[SGrabs33]

Are you going to be making the transition to FEature? My grass is still ridiculously green from the application I made almost 20 days ago. BTW cnet24 I'd recommend giving it a shot if you haven't. Use 2 oz/M.

I'm definatley interested in trying it out but I already have a lot of FAS left(thanks a lot @Mightyquinn :lol. I currently only spray it in my backyard where there is no concrete to stain. I also haven't quite honed in on the ideal dosage because I haven't really noticed a drastic increase in green yet. Through I have only used FAS 3 times now (2 this year).

I've got ya covered for one round if you want to try it. I work in Apex and can bring it tomorrow if ya PM for my location....
I had never gotten results with FAS like I have with this....

My answer to that is a resounding hell yes. Pm inbound.

 

[Greendoc]

@Greendoc I have 2,4D and also some Celsius. If I were going to buy one container of herbicide that would add to the above mix and or would use by itself to control wedges, would you choose Dismiss or Certainty?

I'm leaning toward Dismiss because it can be used in beds. I plan on ultimately getting both but can only afford one or the other right now.

I would lean towards Dismiss as well. Celsius+Dismiss is another one of my mixes for a lawn with high weeds. In most cases, I am also combining Dismiss with Certainty because Certainty is so slow. 3 applications of Dismiss at 4 oz per acre equivalent starts to act as a preemergent against further emergence of sedges and many other weeds. The 6-8 oz applications are just too hard on the grass.

 

[cnet24]

@Colonel K0rn @Steverino I must have missed the FEature thread... has this totally replaced your FAS applications w/ PGR? Or are you just subbing in the FEature product as your iron portion of the FAS recipe and still using the Ammonium Sulfate?