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Hi all. I am inserting a photo of my front yard only. The backyard is pretty much the same. It's an acre. So far, I have found crab grass, Bermuda grass, creeping charlie, dandelions, something that looks like Henbit, Jimson weed (or maybe it's Prickly Lettuce), and wild violets. Last summer, I literally crawled on my hands and knees over my entire property and pulled thousands of dandelions by hand so that I could get the roots and all. This year, I've only seen six dandelions, and they are pulled already. As for the rest of the weeds, I am still working on them. We've only lived here 18 months, and I am new to this level of lawn maintenance. We lived in the desert of southern Kalifornistan (California) prior to moving, and our yard was astroturf because the brain-dead politicians wouldn't let us water our yards if we had one, so we put down astroturf. Now I have REAL grass, and I want it to be perfect (or as close as possible, anyway).

I am going to buy a tow-behind electric liquid fertilizer for my tractor, and I have some Tenacity in the garage. I put down a granular pre-emergent about three weeks ago. Need to read up more on when I should/can put down Tenacity. I'm new to all of this, so go easy on me. :p

One of the photos shows a pretty good size patch of dead grass (the photo with my shadow). It's all Bermuda, I believe. The post-emergent I put down last fall may (or may not) have killed it. I don't know if it's dead, or just dormant. Again, I'll take all the advice I can get.

Thanks so much!!

Mike
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The light brown grass is bermuda. The darker green is not. I’m in TN as well and there is no way bermuda is awake right now. I have it in my lawn as well and it’s dormant at the moment. You probably have TTTF. I’m no good at IDing it from other cool season grasses tho so I’ll let someone else take a stab at that.

around me it’s either TTTF or bermuda. No one is crazy enough to try KBG here.
 

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Rip the spots up a little. You can't kill bermuda without glyphosate and maybe rounds of Fusilade II or Pylex. I'd venture to guess the dead spots are crabgrass. Bermuda won't rip out of the ground easily or in large pieces since it has rhizomes. Looks like a fescue lawn, is that your desire? Start a lawn journal.
 

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It is dormant Bermuda it will green up with warmer temperatures.
I recommend you waiting and see how it looks before killing it or suppressing it, because that area might get so hot and the only turf that survive is Bermuda. If not keep reseeding in the fall with fescue and apply pylex, fusilade and ornamec and it should be gone in a year.
If you want grass now reseed fescue in that area and water like hell it might work because it a small area and it is easy to remember and save on water.

Yes you can apply prodiamide or tenacity again. Is you spray prodiamide don’t apply it in the area that you plant to re seed. Add some fertilizer and some soil conditioner with compost in fall and reseed and I promise you it will just be fescue by November.
 

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It is dormant Bermuda it will green up with warmer temperatures.
I recommend you waiting and see how it looks before killing it or suppressing it, because that area might get so hot and the only turf that survive is Bermuda. If not keep reseeding in the fall with fescue and apply pylex, fusilade and ornamec and it should be gone in a year.
If you want grass now reseed fescue in that area and water like hell it might work because it a small area and it is easy to remember and save on water.

Yes you can apply prodiamide or tenacity again. Is you spray prodiamide don’t apply it in the area that you plant to re seed. Add some fertilizer and some soil conditioner with compost in fall and reseed and I promise you it will just be fescue by November.
I already know how it looks. That crap grows like, well, like weeds, and it's getting into my raised beds as well. I want it dead. I know it's going to take time, though. I have applied pre-emergent already, and come late April, I'll be putting down phase two of my four-phase weed killer/fertilizer regimen. In the fall, I'll be reseeding with perennial rye grass. Thing is, it's not a small area. I have almost 50,000 sq. ft. of lawn, and a lot of spots with Bermuda grass, as well as other weeds. We do get plenty of rainfall, so that's a plus. In fact, I finished putting down my pre-emergent yesterday afternoon as the clouds were rolling in, and it's been raining all night and is still raining this morning.

I'm getting a tow-behind trailer boom broadcast and spot sprayer for my tractor for the Tenacity (and other liquids as required), and hopefully the Tenacity will do wonders on these weeds. I am guessing that it'll probably take 2-3 years before I get them all under control, or at least much more manageable. The previous owners of my house didn't do anything to help the yard.
 

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It's not as bad as you might think. Your yard is flat and there are few trees in the front so that's a major plus. Fighting Bermuda needs to be a two or three-year plan. Don't rush that otherwise you'll hurt what you might want to keep. Heck, when it greens up you might want to keep it because it will do well in full sun. Defeating broadleaf weeds and crabgrass can be taken care of in a full season. I know you have Tenacity on hand but it's not a preferred pre or post-emergent. It's best used as a pre-em when seeding. If you're not seeding then use a real pre-em and post-em plus it will be cheaper.

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My yard is actually sloped from front to back. It's not a steep slope, but it is sloped nonetheless. As for Bermuda grass, I hate the stuff. It is so invasive. I know it is very hearty, but it's not desirable to me in the least.

The Tenacity I bought was MUCH cheaper than buying the multiple bags of pre- and post-emergent products I've had to purchase. I have about 50,000 sq. ft. to deal with. It costs me well over $1,000 each year just for the weed killer. That doesn't include seeding, spot spraying, any mulching or landscaping, etc. The one bottle of Tenacity goes much further. My hope is that betwixt both items, I'll be able to get the yard whipped into shape. My grass is already getting to be a nice deep green, although I still have the stupid weeds to contend with. I know that it will take a few seasons of persistence to be rid of them, and then continued vigilance to keep them away. One day at a time! :):)
 
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