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It appears a lot of people on here keep their lawn journal stored up here. Probably a great idea in my case because I forget what I did and when.

Lawn Overview
I've owned the house for almost 5 years now. I've been struggling for the past few years to get the weeds under control and get the grass thickened up. This is a satellite image of what the yard looked like right before I bought the place:

I used the Scott's 4 step program, I used local lawn companies, none of it seemed to work. My grass seed that I was throwing down didn't seem to germinate much either. I am sure a big part of the issue was lack of knowledge. With that, I did manage to make a little progress compared to what it looked like when I bought the place. This was roughly 2 years ago:

After finally getting some decent knowledge from some of the more known YouTube channels, I've switched to Milorganite, my grass is greener, the weeds aren't as bad, and the grass seed actually grew in, thickening up the lawn quite a bit. There's still some bare spots to work on though from where I removed a Spruce tree in the late fall.

Lawn Size
I'm estimating that I have roughly 15000sq/ft
I've marked the property into 4 sections
the main front yard area is ~7800
the side yard by the garage is ~5000
the backyard is ~2000
the small section on the side of the house by the a/c is ~1000
I take into account the flower beds, the above ground pool, shed, etc.

Weed Problems
Last year my main problem weed was crabgrass along the driveway, along the road (mainly hotter areas) and a few spots here and there that were a little bare. I did have some clover here and there and a few dandelions. I was using a local lawn care company at the beginning of the year so they were supposed to have put down the pre-emergent. They sprayed for most of the weeds but I ended up cancelling them as I wasn't seeing enough progress and I started doing it myself. This year I've seen some chickweed, dandelions and some strange grass that I have yet to identify that is predominantly under a large oak tree. I've tried spraying the weeds a couple times, but the temps are back and fourth in Cincinnati so it may have gotten too cold to take affect.
Prodiamine was put down on I believe 3/11(see, I should have written this down sooner!)

Soil Sample
This is the first soil sample I've done. This was taken on 4/2 from my front yard.

So it appears that I was still low on Nitrogen and Potassium even though I put Milorganite down about a week prior (3/24 I believe). The numbers it's calling for I believe would be a perfect fit for Ringer. However, the amount I would need would cost me almost 2x that of Milorganite. I'd have to do the math to see if it is cheaper to do Ringer or crank up the dosage for Milorganite to meet the need.
 

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Photo from 4/1
this was taken Easter Sunday. The grass was getting tall because it had been raining/snowing and nature was just trolling the crap out of me.


4/7
I finally managed to accomplish two things.
1. I was able to get a new push mower. Toro Recycler 22" Stow Away.
2. I was able to get the first mow in for the year and used the new Toro. I will have to work on my stripe game with this guy.


4/12
managed to get another mow in before the rain sets in this weekend and temps evidently dropping to the 30's again after it's going to be in the 70's on 4/13 and 4/14. I mowed perpendicular to the stripes on 4/7 and they looked much better. didn't take a pic. Also went through the yard and dug up a lot of the dandelions as they were killing me.
 

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Noclssgt said:
It appears a lot of people on here keep their lawn journal stored up here. Probably a great idea in my case because I forget what I did and when.
And it's great to see what other folks are doing with their lawns. :thumbsup:
 

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So it appears that I was still low on Nitrogen and Potassium even though I put Milorganite down about a week prior (3/24 I believe). The numbers it's calling for I believe would be a perfect fit for Ringer. However, the amount I would need would cost me almost 2x that of Milorganite. I'd have to do the math to see if it is cheaper to do Ringer or crank up the dosage for Milorganite to meet the need.
I used SOP from kelp4less to get my potassium levels up. With the amount you need that may be the better route. Last time I ordered if you get it from their website you don't pay shipping. For some reason you do if get it through ebay.

I'm surprise how green your lawn looks with the colder temps you've had.
 

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kevreh said:
Noclssgt said:
So it appears that I was still low on Nitrogen and Potassium even though I put Milorganite down about a week prior (3/24 I believe). The numbers it's calling for I believe would be a perfect fit for Ringer. However, the amount I would need would cost me almost 2x that of Milorganite. I'd have to do the math to see if it is cheaper to do Ringer or crank up the dosage for Milorganite to meet the need.
I used SOP from kelp4less to get my potassium levels up. With the amount you need that may be the better route. Last time I ordered if you get it from their website you don't pay shipping. For some reason you do if get it through ebay.

I'm surprise how green your lawn looks with the colder temps you've had.
Thanks, I will look that up.
Yeah, our temps have been across the board the past month. We get a few days of 50-60 temps and then snow. Its 76 today and supposed to be 78 tomorrow. They're calling for snow and 39 monday. :cry:
 

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4/18
I went ahead and bought 100lbs of ringer lawn restore to try out. It has higher nitrogen and has potash so thought it would be worth a try before I do an actual potash treatment.
I put it down at roughly 6lb/1k. I just finished up and put a little extra down at the property lines when it started raining. Perfect timing :)


Before picture so I can compare in a week or so
 

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4/19
Got a chance to go outside and spot spray the weeds I was seeing. As I walked through, I quickly realized I had a much bigger problem. The whole yard is filled with this junk and I just saw them carrying seeds today (was dark and rainy when i fertilized yesterday)





I made up a mixture of cco and wipe-out and ended up doing more blanket spraying than spot spraying. Going to bag now tomorrow to try to get the seeds bagged up
 

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^ grasses go to seed in the spring. It is normal and it does not mean a weed. Some could be weed (mainly poa annua). I dont see poa annua in your images.

When the grass is going to seed, it is really important to have a sharp blade. The seed stalk is thicker and it looks ugly when cut. The seed head period normally last 2 weeks (but this year nothing is normal).
 

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oh really?
I guess I just blanket sprayed for nothing then, lol. I will just call it preventative measures ;) I do have some big nasty patches of either annual ryegrass or quackgrass. I made sure to especially spray that stuff down real good.
This is the first time my grass has ever seeded, that's kind of exciting.
 

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So the lawn has thickened up pretty nice. Some neighbors are starting to compliment and say I'm in competition with a neighbor down the street for nicest lawn (one that I have always been envious of). Of course as soon as things get nice, the garbage man runs his truck through my yard, making a 12" deep rut



 

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jessehurlburt said:
Looks great! Do you find the Ringer locally, or have it shipped to you? I've been waiting to give it a try this year.
I have yet to find it locally. The cheapest place I found it was through safer brands directly. They have a 2 bag deal that saves a bit per bag, plus orders over 50 bucks was free shipping. For 4 bags it ended up being almost 10 bucks cheaper than amazon.
 

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Update 5/28
Put down a dose of hi yield ornamental weed and grass (dithiopyr). I put 4lb/1000sq ft around d the road and driveway and 3lb/1000sq ft everywhere else as I didnt have enough to do 4lb everywhere, but wanted to get the crabgrass that was coming in already.
I am seeing some brown spots in the lawn. At first I thought it was the poa annua dying off since I have so much of it. Upon pulling some blades, this is what I'm looking at for the most part. Lots of other spots are full brown.

 

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so it has been a little bit since I posted updates in the lawn journal. I actually started up a youtube channel and had been using that instead. However, I feel that I should probably keep this updated as well for others that it might help that ultimately don't see the youtube videos. anyways...

6/15/18 - I started spoon feeding milorganite. I was aiming for .5lb/1k but ended up around .35lb/1k. I know for next time to dial up my spreader a bit to get closer to the .5lb/1k. I ended up using roughly 2.5 bags.

6/20/18 - got prime source quinclorac and prosedge in the mail. My checkmate lawn striper also showed up for the toro push mower (hooray!!!) Very easy install and stripes nicely.

6/23/18 - Sprayed the quinclorac and pro sedge. The nutsedge that I sprayed mostly went away. I didn't have MSO for the quinclorac but I did use baby shampoo as a surfactant. I didn't really see much result from the app.

6/30/18 - Seeing more visible results with the nutsedge dying off.

7/11/18 - humic acid (teravita sp-90) and sea kelp showed up. did an app in the backyard

7/14/18 - humic acid and sea kelp app on the side yard

7/15/18 - humic acid and sea kelp app on the front yard.

7/28/18 - I have a patio going into the backyard to replace the deck that I'm in process of tearing down. With that, I feel that the backyard is mostly going to get torn up so I think this is an opportunity to nuke the backyard (2k sqft) and reseed with gci tttf. Waiting on the start date for the patio to determine when to nuke the yard and put seed down via slice seeder.
 
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