The only correct answer here based upon what you delineated is TifTuf. TifTuf is the superior hybrid bermuda.

 

The only correct answer here based upon what you delineated is TifTuf. TifTuf is the superior hybrid bermuda.

So in every category I mentioned you think tiftuf is superior?

 

1. I plan to mow around 1/2-5/8''
2. I prefer darker shades of green or blue/green over lighter shades of grass
3. Quicker spring green up and longer color retention into fall
4. Disease/pest resilience
5. Less maintenance in terms of verticutting specifically.
6. Quick recovery to damage

1. Any of the three will be great.
2. Darker blue-green is Celebration, then tif419, and TifTuf is the lightest in color.
3. Similar, but TifTuf, Tif419, and then Celebration.
4. Similar as far as my experience.
5. Similar, but the Tifton grasses stay tighter naturally, where Celebration can get "puffy".
6. Any of the three, but Celebration spreads faster to bare areas.

edit -- just realized that you asked about Tifgrand and not 419. I don't have personal experience with Tifgrand, but would like to try it.

 

Avoid TifGrand unless you want to deal with seed heads all the time.

 

Avoid TifGrand unless you want to deal with seed heads all the time.

This is something else I forgot to mention. My 419 gets seed heads bad. In fact I have them now and my 11 blade reel doesn't do a good job cutting them.

 

1. I plan to mow around 1/2-5/8''
2. I prefer darker shades of green or blue/green over lighter shades of grass
3. Quicker spring green up and longer color retention into fall
4. Disease/pest resilience
5. Less maintenance in terms of verticutting specifically.
6. Quick recovery to damage

1. Any of the three will be great.
2. Darker blue-green is Celebration, then tif419, and TifTuf is the lightest in color.
3. Similar, but TifTuf, Tif419, and then Celebration.
4. Similar as far as my experience.
5. Similar, but the Tifton grasses stay tighter naturally, where Celebration can get "puffy".
6. Any of the three, but Celebration spreads faster to bare areas.

edit -- just realized that you asked about Tifgrand and not 419. I don't have personal experience with Tifgrand, but would like to try it.

I was hoping Celebration had quick green up.

I was talking with a guy in the Atlanta area recently who has 419 in the front and Tiftuf in the backyard and said it was out of dormancy weeks before his 419.

 

The only correct answer here based upon what you delineated is TifTuf. TifTuf is the superior hybrid bermuda.

So in every category I mentioned you think tiftuf is superior?

Yes, other than mowing height is the same between all 3. I don't know where people are getting this idea that TifTuf is not dark green. The TifTuf at my house is extremely dark green. If you want to save money get Tifway. If you want the best grass get TifTuf.

 

My 419 doesn't get too many seedheads and I think it has better color than Tiftuf. Tiftuf wins in the early spring/late fall catagory though. Can't say too much about Tifgrand. From what I've read, I'd avoid it. Out of those three my choices would be #1 Tiftuf, #2 Celebration, #3 Tifgrand.

 

Here's a picture of the TifTuf sod I planted a month ago:

 

Here is TifTuf sod I laid last July:


And more TifTuf I laid last week:


White balance is off on my phone, so they are the same. Dark green

 

White balance is off on my phone, so they are the same. Dark green

Gotta get those big white toes out of the picture so your phone can adjust the exposure. 😂

 

What's up with those sandals, what is this 1969? LOL

In all seriousness, TifTuf all the way!

 

My 419 doesn't get too many seedheads and I think it has better color than Tiftuf. Tiftuf wins in the early spring/late fall catagory though. Can't say too much about Tifgrand. From what I've read, I'd avoid it. Out of those three my choices would be #1 Tiftuf, #2 Celebration, #3 Tifgrand.

My 419 has tons of seed heads. Are you spraying pgr?

 

The only correct answer here based upon what you delineated is TifTuf. TifTuf is the superior hybrid bermuda.

So in every category I mentioned you think tiftuf is superior?

Yes, other than mowing height is the same between all 3. I don't know where people are getting this idea that TifTuf is not dark green. The TifTuf at my house is extremely dark green. If you want to save money get Tifway. If you want the best grass get TifTuf.

Not concerned with the few dollar difference between varieties. I'm starting fresh and do not want 419 again.

I've basically narrowed it down to celebration or tiftuf. Between these two why would you lean towards Tiftuf?

 

Tiftuff is for 1/2 and higher height of cut. Tifgrand is if you plan on maintaining at 0.4 or lower

 

BLUF / TL;DR - Tifgrand.



1. Tifgrand is better below 1"; it's a semi dwarf. Tiftuf is better according to UGA at 0.75+.
2. Darkest green of the three.
3. I know Tiftuf stays green longer and greens up sooner. I think tahoma 31 and Tiftuf lead the pack on this one. The others might be close as well, I just don't know.
4. Each cultivar has their strengths; anything in particular you're worried about?
5. Not zoysia
6. Tiftuf and celebration establish quicker than Tifgrand.
7. Any other requirements? You also want it to cut itself?

 

BLUF / TL;DR - Tifgrand.

7. Any other requirements? You also want it to cut itself?

They really weren't requirements but inquiries regarding each but if there's a hybrid that advanced please feel free to share that info as well.

 

BLUF / TL;DR - Tifgrand.

7. Any other requirements? You also want it to cut itself?

They really weren't requirements but inquiries regarding each but if there's a hybrid that advanced please feel free to share that info as well.

Discovery Bermuda

 

BLUF / TL;DR - Tifgrand.

7. Any other requirements? You also want it to cut itself?

They really weren't requirements but inquiries regarding each but if there's a hybrid that advanced please feel free to share that info as well.

Discovery Bermuda

I had Discovery at my previous home. I chose to plant Celebration at the new one, but my choices were 419, Celebration, Discovery, Meyer Zoysia and Emerald Zoysia. So I know nothing of Tiftuf.

 

@Redtwin i thought having my feet in both pics would adjust the balance so that exposure was the same. I know nothing about cameras and had been drinking already

 

My 419 has tons of seed heads. Are you spraying pgr?

Yes, I have been treating with T-Nex this season. I'm letting it rebound right now but will start up again when the rains kick in.

 

If you are set on mowing over .5", avoid tifgrand. I have it and can say that it definitely needs to be cut reel low and reel often. I'm cutting mine at 8mm right now. Once I get it leveled better, I'd like to go lower than that. It is gorgeous grass though.

 

What about Latitude 36 compared to these three? I'm trying out a very small area of L-36 plugs.

 

What about Latitude 36 compared to these three? I'm trying out a very small area of L-36 plugs.

Can't get it anywhere close to me without paying a ridiculous shipping rate from out of state.

 

Who's cutting tiftuff at .5 ? I haven't seen it personally that low. It does hold color better than most legacy Bermudas

I prefer the smaller blade, dark green tifgrand. Trucut probably cutting at .5" (lowest it can go)

Recovery, unless you have lot of sports or a perhaps horses running all over it...it's going to fine with any of those