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Hell strip reno recommendations

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#1 ·
The hell strip in my front yard needs to be renovated and I'm looking for recommendations on grass type. It is (was...) St. Augustine, but it's 95% dead now and mostly weeds. The problem with it is dog traffic...multiple large dogs in the neighborhood visit it every day and the grass simply struggles until weeds win.

I'm not stuck on St. Aug to replace it and looking to find the lowest maintenance, most durable I can plant there. Common bermuda? Nutsedge? :lol:

It's a fairly small area (~50' x 3').

Thanks for any input!
 
#4 ·
Movingshrub said:
Wtf are so many dogs walking through your grass? Isn't there a perfectly good sidewalk?
No sidewalks in my neighborhood... everyone walks in the street and makes pit stops for the dogs as needed.

I guess I'm looking for something lower maintenance overall, compared to St Aug. I have enough of that everywhere else and wondering if maybe bermuda or zoysia would be any better for higher traffic, drought, etc.
 
#8 ·
LHP_Grass said:
Movingshrub said:
Wtf are so many dogs walking through your grass? Isn't there a perfectly good sidewalk?
No sidewalks in my neighborhood... everyone walks in the street and makes pit stops for the dogs as needed.

I guess I'm looking for something lower maintenance overall, compared to St Aug. I have enough of that everywhere else and wondering if maybe bermuda or zoysia would be any better for higher traffic, drought, etc.
Ah okay. I always thought the hell strip was the grass between the sidewalk and the street/curb. If you don't have a sidewalk, I assume your saying the section of lawn closest to the curb is getting abused.

If st aug won't handle the traffic, Bermuda is very resilient if it has full sun, but it will spread into the rest of the lawn; same with zoysia.
 
#9 ·
pherrley said:
In my experience (large dog) with a mix of SA and Bermuda in my back yard. Bermuda will die, SA seems to handle dog urine pretty well.

Not sure any grass could put up with multiple dogs marking the same spot?
I have the opposite experience. My dog kills SA as soon as she starts even sniffing for a place to pee if it's in the SA areas (I have a yard salad). Where she has killed off the SA, I can sprig Zenith, and it thrives.
 
#10 ·
LHP_Grass said:
Movingshrub said:
Wtf are so many dogs walking through your grass? Isn't there a perfectly good sidewalk?
No sidewalks in my neighborhood... everyone walks in the street and makes pit stops for the dogs as needed.

I guess I'm looking for something lower maintenance overall, compared to St Aug. I have enough of that everywhere else and wondering if maybe bermuda or zoysia would be any better for higher traffic, drought, etc.
There's an area in my yard where the dogs like to fight. i used to joke about their "octagon". I could not get the centipede or SA to spread, because they'd tear it up making sharp turns before the roots could tack down. I tried seeding zenith, and that didn't work either. What did was taking some existing zenith where I have it spreading out into places I don't want it, and I stolonized the octagon with zenith, and it has held up, and nearly covered up the spot that has been bare for two years. As to tolerating pee, it seems to do pretty good. At least in the areas where their pee has killed SA, the zenith seems to thrive.
 
#11 ·
Movingshrub said:
LHP_Grass said:
Movingshrub said:
Wtf are so many dogs walking through your grass? Isn't there a perfectly good sidewalk?
No sidewalks in my neighborhood... everyone walks in the street and makes pit stops for the dogs as needed.

I guess I'm looking for something lower maintenance overall, compared to St Aug. I have enough of that everywhere else and wondering if maybe bermuda or zoysia would be any better for higher traffic, drought, etc.
Ah okay. I always thought the hell strip was the grass between the sidewalk and the street/curb. If you don't have a sidewalk, I assume your saying the section of lawn closest to the curb is getting abused.

If st aug won't handle the traffic, Bermuda is very resilient if it has full sun, but it will spread into the rest of the lawn; same with zoysia.
Yeah, it's sort of a hybrid hell strip...here is a pic. Most of the green is goosegrass, spurge, and nutsedge...



Double bonus...no sidewalk amd no curbs! haha

The strip is bordered by driveway on each side and the flowerbed to the left is also. Invading other sections should not be too much of an issue unless I carry it over with my mower, but one side is already half bermuda thanks to my neighbor.
 
#14 ·
LHP_Grass said:
Movingshrub said:
LHP_Grass said:
No sidewalks in my neighborhood... everyone walks in the street and makes pit stops for the dogs as needed.

I guess I'm looking for something lower maintenance overall, compared to St Aug. I have enough of that everywhere else and wondering if maybe bermuda or zoysia would be any better for higher traffic, drought, etc.
Ah okay. I always thought the hell strip was the grass between the sidewalk and the street/curb. If you don't have a sidewalk, I assume your saying the section of lawn closest to the curb is getting abused.

If st aug won't handle the traffic, Bermuda is very resilient if it has full sun, but it will spread into the rest of the lawn; same with zoysia.
Yeah, it's sort of a hybrid hell strip...here is a pic. Most of the green is goosegrass, spurge, and nutsedge...



Double bonus...no sidewalk amd no curbs! haha

The strip is bordered by driveway on each side and the flowerbed to the left is also. Invading other sections should not be too much of an issue unless I carry it over with my mower, but one side is already half bermuda thanks to my neighbor.
So all of these dogs just hit your yard? Everyone else looks like they have decent grass right along the street.

You sure something else isn't going on?
 
#15 ·
I have four large breed dogs, 3 Huskies and a Bull-mastiff. I would highly suggest bermuda ! I do get urine spots from time to time, but the grass grows back really quick. It can handle a lot of traffic.

This is a pic after I leveled my lawn, the small yellow spots is actually dead nut-sedge that was treated. This is post mow, but the dogs have been on it for weeks.

 
#16 ·
I don't know ....that's a 'hell strip' ....hard to mow cleanly

Bermuda is the most rugged (athletic fields, dah) .....will that area ever be pleasing if installed...need to keep tight (low) or when June rolls around, you'll cut off the little green remaining on the shoot.

Zoysia .....you'll stare at the damage longer but more forgiving to hoc and varying degrees of level