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Grass Seed Recommendation for Shade

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I'm overseeding right after Labor Day and need some recommendations for a dense shade lawn.

I'm in upstate New York in the Albany area and have lots of tall white oaks around my house. I get maybe 3-5 hours of full sunlight per day in the front and back and the rest filtered light through the oak trees.

Someone on the forum recommended TTTF and similar grass types a while back. I've been looking at Jonathan Green's Black Beauty for Dense Shade which is a lot of tall and fine fescue.

http://www.jonathangreen.com/product/dense-shade-grass-seed-mixture.html

Is this good stuff or should I go with only TTTF from a different company?
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phil said:
75 total and I asked for 50% 4th Millenium Tall Fescue, 40% Traverse Tall Fescue, and 10% Kentucky Blue Bewitched
Phil, will you be doing any sections of just 4th/Traverse/KBG or will it simply be an overseed of the whole yard?
I want to do a section of my front next year with the 4th/Traverse blend and was curious about the look.
I will be overseeding the whole yard but there are two decent-sized sections (each one probably about 400 square feet or so) that will be pure. They're areas with little to no grass right now that I will be building up with new soil and seeding heavily. I'll take lots of pics
I hate to tell you but you might be a little short. Overseeing rates for tttf are 4-5 lbs/k. That's 80-100 lbs for 20k sq ft(the kbg is negligible) and that's not including the 1k sq ft of reseeding. Not to mention it's a good idea to have 10 or 20 lb extra. :roll:

Edit: you can use that but go light, like 3 lbs/k
Crap. Maybe I'll just see if they can bump it to 100 pounds before shipping today. If not I'll section off an area in the back and do it in a couple weeks after getting more.
vnephologist said:
I was doing a little similar digging for myself and turned up Newsom in MD possibly with 4th Millennium. I wasn't sure if they only sold wholesale though. Searching for Newsom here doesn't yield any results, but a search over at the other forum turns up some folks indicating that they're only wholesale and some that seemed to have purchased. I reached out to two of their sales folks to check on seed availability and, if in-stock, if we could purchase at any mimimum.
I've bought from Newsom. Walked in. Payed cash. No problems. As long as you don't mind increments of 50lb bags you should be fine.
mtlcafan79 said:
vnephologist said:
I was doing a little similar digging for myself and turned up Newsom in MD possibly with 4th Millennium. I wasn't sure if they only sold wholesale though. Searching for Newsom here doesn't yield any results, but a search over at the other forum turns up some folks indicating that they're only wholesale and some that seemed to have purchased. I reached out to two of their sales folks to check on seed availability and, if in-stock, if we could purchase at any mimimum.
I've bought from Newsom. Walked in. Payed cash. No problems. As long as you don't mind increments of 50lb bags you should be fine.
Yeah, not so relevant to this particular thread any longer, but I did hear back and was told to contact Perry @ 1-800-553-2719 for phone orders. He doesn't have 4th Millennium or Traverse 2, but he does have a couple 50lb bags of Raptor III. I'm seriously considering since I haven't found it elsewhere.
My seed already arrived! One day!
phil said:
One of two bags :)

It's like Christmas!!!
Phil, please follow up with photos of how this goes for you. Looks like I'm nearby and have a yard that's largely shaded by trees. I've got some serious leveling work to do in the spring, hoping that a aeration and rolling can help somewhat, but after that I'll be in the market for some seed, would be nice to see how this is growing for you!

Thanks,
Chris
For a follow-up, I started a new thread here http://thelawnforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1174

I will add more pics once I see germination or start a new thread altogether. This is an 18,000 square foot overseed and a 2,000 square foot *new* seed.
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