So I decided to start one of these mostly so I have a good way to see the transformation (hopefully) of my lawn. Of course if you want to follow along feel free.
Background:
We have been in the house for almost 8 years. It was built in the mid-60's and previous owners (not the original owners) really didn't keep the house up meaning it was a bit of a "fixer upper" when we bought it. The yard really wasn't a priority for a long time. I was excited to cut the grass though haha.
Over the years we have started to work on the yard little by little, but never really put full effort in the landscaping, etc. This spring I started to get more serious about the lawn at least, found this forum, and started to read, and work.
Front Yard (900sq/ft)
Probably 5 years ago I removed all the grass at the front and laid sod, I believe it was KBG. It was either the same time, or maybe a year later, I installed irrigation myself. The KBG never lasted. We have a giant cedar tree in the middle of the lawn, another large-ish tree on the side. Too much shade, not enough water, and who knows what else, didn't help the KBG. I overseeded a few times (aka throwing seed down randomly and watering occasionally), and one year out of desperation I three down some micro-clover. Yikes to all of the above, lol.
Back Yard (1200sq/ft+ (need to measure again))
When we moved in it was not looked after at all. There was an old deck and a broken patio with weeds everywhere. Also there was an above ground pool. We immediately got rid of the pool leaving a giant hole in the lawn, filled it with some dirt and covered it with some sod. It of course sank over time. Not good.
3 years ago we decided to reno the back yard. Ripped out the old desk, removed the old patio and did a large two level deck. During this removed the lawn, laid weeping tile and drainage in the yard (the back was always a puddle in the spring and after heavy rains, also our rear neighbour is graded higher than us so everything flows down), and installed irrigation, new soil, sod, done.
Over the last few years weeds took over, creeping charlie, lack of watering, etc. On top of that the areas where the irrigation lines were laid settled so the lawn is not flat at all.
I believe that takes us to where we are this year.
Grass Type
As I mentioned it was originally KBG I believe from sod. Due to shade over the years I threw down some "shade mix", and a few years ago threw down micro clover on the front. This spring I did some research finally and bought some CRF, TTTF and PRG from a local supplier, mixed and put it down. I have just purchased 50lbs of RPR which I plan to make my main seed going forward. I WANTED to do Poa Supina but the price was astronomical, and I couldn't bring myself to pay for it. Maybe in the future.
Sun/Shade
As mentioned the front yard has significant shaded areas. Some areas get more sun, others less of course. But almost every area gets SOME sun.
In the back it is surrounded by trees. The middle gets sun most of the day, but the ends are mostly shade. Getting anything to grow there will be tough, hence the Poa Supina idea.
Pictures below.
Irrigation
As mentioned I have DIY irrigation in the the front and back. Last year I added a sprinkler to the front and the coverage is much better. Originally I had the sprinklers shooting over the side walk to water the devil strip, but stopped doing that in the last couple of years. I may or may not tackle that area again.
In the back I have some adjustments to make. I looked at the situation, did a water audit of sorts and determined I can remove 3 sprinklers.
The issue I have is weak water pressure so I can't have too many sprinklers on each zone. Basically I can run two pop-ups at 180degrees max. If I go to three they all don't function well. So by removing some sprinklers at the back I should get better performance overall.
Lawn Mower
I have a 7 year old 16" Ryobi Electrical Lawnmower that I got when we moved in. While reading this forum I started looking at HOC for the first time really. I always assumed I was cutting at 3" or something. I looked up my model's manual and checked the heights and to my amazement the cutting heights are from 3/4" to 2-3/4" which I believe is pretty low for a rotary mower, especially an electric one. Point is I have been cutting far lower than I thought.
For the front I have settled on 1-1/4" for now. For the back I have been cutting at 1-3/4"
I'd love to reel cut at some point, but that is years away.
Spring 2022
In May I decided I wanted to improve the lawn, maybe I got influenced by this site! I decided to start with the front yard, while also spraying for weeds in the back. I ordered some loam and sand, and scalped and dethatched, leveled as best as I could, rolled, overseeded, peat moss. Overall I was pretty happy with the results. I also did get some Killex which knocked out most of the weeds and used the Borox method to get rid of the creeping charlie. I did the same spraying in the back as well.
The weed treatments did an amazing job. Basically nothing left. All the creeping charlier and micro clover was completely gone in the front and back.
As the lawn looked better I also fertilized, did some kelp and humic acid in the front.
Overall I was quite happy with how the front was looking. I would say it was kind of thin (didn't really understand how much seed I should put down), but in terms of the overall look it was definitely one of the better ones in my immediate area.
The back was basically weed-less, but I wasn't doing anything else too it, so it was what it was.
Current Situation
Well I went on vacation for 2 weeks and when I returned the front was a crabgrass jungle. Not good. I cut it of course, but the amount was significant. I started searching on here for a solution, Quinclorac. Of course that isn't available in Canada. I did start hand pulling but there are/were areas where it is basically all of the grass. I found something called "Crabgrass Juice" a local dad is selling, 99.9% sure he is getting Quinclorac from the US and re-selling it. Anyway, ordered some but he didn't have any stock at first. Bottom line is with the timing I feel like it is too late to spray it now with my plan to over seed.
So I used some Roundup to kill the really bad areas and will hand pull the others. Bottom line is next year I need to be prepared for this potential disaster.
The backyard did not have the crabgrass issue and remains pretty much weed free.
Plan Going Forward - 2022
Front Yard
- Remove as much crab grass as possible
- Light top soil in order to fill areas where crab grass was
- Light aeration where needed
- Scalp and dethatch
- Overseed with RPR
- Peat Moss
- Water, cut, fertilize, etc.
Back Yard
- Remove and relocate sprinklers
- Light top soil in some really bad low areas
- Overseed with RPR
- Peat Moss
- Water, cut, fertilize, etc.
Ultimate Goals
The ultimate goal for me would be a low HOC lawn that is thick, extremely flat and hopefully being reel cut. I'm a bit of an outlier I think in that I prefer a light coloured lawn, and I don't care about stripes. I'm sure my goals will get more specific overtime.
Now for some pictures. I don't have a tonne, but will try to take more detailed ones in the future.
The original front yard from this spring

The park across from my house... zero weed control...

Initial levelling and over seeding from this May

Intermediate picture from June

The best picture I have from before vacation. Weeds still not completely gone

Crabgrass after a cut when I returned

Another problem I have with the yard...

A couple of the current crabgrass removal process/spraying/annoyance


And a couple of the backyard recently



Well that's it for now. I'll update when I have something to update, lol. If anyone has any questions just ask away. I'm looking forward to keeping track and seeing how the lawn, front and back, improve overtime.
Background:
We have been in the house for almost 8 years. It was built in the mid-60's and previous owners (not the original owners) really didn't keep the house up meaning it was a bit of a "fixer upper" when we bought it. The yard really wasn't a priority for a long time. I was excited to cut the grass though haha.
Over the years we have started to work on the yard little by little, but never really put full effort in the landscaping, etc. This spring I started to get more serious about the lawn at least, found this forum, and started to read, and work.
Front Yard (900sq/ft)
Probably 5 years ago I removed all the grass at the front and laid sod, I believe it was KBG. It was either the same time, or maybe a year later, I installed irrigation myself. The KBG never lasted. We have a giant cedar tree in the middle of the lawn, another large-ish tree on the side. Too much shade, not enough water, and who knows what else, didn't help the KBG. I overseeded a few times (aka throwing seed down randomly and watering occasionally), and one year out of desperation I three down some micro-clover. Yikes to all of the above, lol.
Back Yard (1200sq/ft+ (need to measure again))
When we moved in it was not looked after at all. There was an old deck and a broken patio with weeds everywhere. Also there was an above ground pool. We immediately got rid of the pool leaving a giant hole in the lawn, filled it with some dirt and covered it with some sod. It of course sank over time. Not good.
3 years ago we decided to reno the back yard. Ripped out the old desk, removed the old patio and did a large two level deck. During this removed the lawn, laid weeping tile and drainage in the yard (the back was always a puddle in the spring and after heavy rains, also our rear neighbour is graded higher than us so everything flows down), and installed irrigation, new soil, sod, done.
Over the last few years weeds took over, creeping charlie, lack of watering, etc. On top of that the areas where the irrigation lines were laid settled so the lawn is not flat at all.
I believe that takes us to where we are this year.
Grass Type
As I mentioned it was originally KBG I believe from sod. Due to shade over the years I threw down some "shade mix", and a few years ago threw down micro clover on the front. This spring I did some research finally and bought some CRF, TTTF and PRG from a local supplier, mixed and put it down. I have just purchased 50lbs of RPR which I plan to make my main seed going forward. I WANTED to do Poa Supina but the price was astronomical, and I couldn't bring myself to pay for it. Maybe in the future.
Sun/Shade
As mentioned the front yard has significant shaded areas. Some areas get more sun, others less of course. But almost every area gets SOME sun.
In the back it is surrounded by trees. The middle gets sun most of the day, but the ends are mostly shade. Getting anything to grow there will be tough, hence the Poa Supina idea.
Pictures below.
Irrigation
As mentioned I have DIY irrigation in the the front and back. Last year I added a sprinkler to the front and the coverage is much better. Originally I had the sprinklers shooting over the side walk to water the devil strip, but stopped doing that in the last couple of years. I may or may not tackle that area again.
In the back I have some adjustments to make. I looked at the situation, did a water audit of sorts and determined I can remove 3 sprinklers.
The issue I have is weak water pressure so I can't have too many sprinklers on each zone. Basically I can run two pop-ups at 180degrees max. If I go to three they all don't function well. So by removing some sprinklers at the back I should get better performance overall.
Lawn Mower
I have a 7 year old 16" Ryobi Electrical Lawnmower that I got when we moved in. While reading this forum I started looking at HOC for the first time really. I always assumed I was cutting at 3" or something. I looked up my model's manual and checked the heights and to my amazement the cutting heights are from 3/4" to 2-3/4" which I believe is pretty low for a rotary mower, especially an electric one. Point is I have been cutting far lower than I thought.
For the front I have settled on 1-1/4" for now. For the back I have been cutting at 1-3/4"
I'd love to reel cut at some point, but that is years away.
Spring 2022
In May I decided I wanted to improve the lawn, maybe I got influenced by this site! I decided to start with the front yard, while also spraying for weeds in the back. I ordered some loam and sand, and scalped and dethatched, leveled as best as I could, rolled, overseeded, peat moss. Overall I was pretty happy with the results. I also did get some Killex which knocked out most of the weeds and used the Borox method to get rid of the creeping charlie. I did the same spraying in the back as well.
The weed treatments did an amazing job. Basically nothing left. All the creeping charlier and micro clover was completely gone in the front and back.
As the lawn looked better I also fertilized, did some kelp and humic acid in the front.
Overall I was quite happy with how the front was looking. I would say it was kind of thin (didn't really understand how much seed I should put down), but in terms of the overall look it was definitely one of the better ones in my immediate area.
The back was basically weed-less, but I wasn't doing anything else too it, so it was what it was.
Current Situation
Well I went on vacation for 2 weeks and when I returned the front was a crabgrass jungle. Not good. I cut it of course, but the amount was significant. I started searching on here for a solution, Quinclorac. Of course that isn't available in Canada. I did start hand pulling but there are/were areas where it is basically all of the grass. I found something called "Crabgrass Juice" a local dad is selling, 99.9% sure he is getting Quinclorac from the US and re-selling it. Anyway, ordered some but he didn't have any stock at first. Bottom line is with the timing I feel like it is too late to spray it now with my plan to over seed.
So I used some Roundup to kill the really bad areas and will hand pull the others. Bottom line is next year I need to be prepared for this potential disaster.
The backyard did not have the crabgrass issue and remains pretty much weed free.
Plan Going Forward - 2022
Front Yard
- Remove as much crab grass as possible
- Light top soil in order to fill areas where crab grass was
- Light aeration where needed
- Scalp and dethatch
- Overseed with RPR
- Peat Moss
- Water, cut, fertilize, etc.
Back Yard
- Remove and relocate sprinklers
- Light top soil in some really bad low areas
- Overseed with RPR
- Peat Moss
- Water, cut, fertilize, etc.
Ultimate Goals
The ultimate goal for me would be a low HOC lawn that is thick, extremely flat and hopefully being reel cut. I'm a bit of an outlier I think in that I prefer a light coloured lawn, and I don't care about stripes. I'm sure my goals will get more specific overtime.
Now for some pictures. I don't have a tonne, but will try to take more detailed ones in the future.
The original front yard from this spring

The park across from my house... zero weed control...

Initial levelling and over seeding from this May

Intermediate picture from June

The best picture I have from before vacation. Weeds still not completely gone

Crabgrass after a cut when I returned

Another problem I have with the yard...

A couple of the current crabgrass removal process/spraying/annoyance


And a couple of the backyard recently



Well that's it for now. I'll update when I have something to update, lol. If anyone has any questions just ask away. I'm looking forward to keeping track and seeing how the lawn, front and back, improve overtime.