[steensn]

Started earlier this year, starting point (patchy and weedy):



Also, this happens 5 -10 times a year in the back and kills all the grass and moss has taken root, plan on bringing in topsoil and regrading, then making a spot for water to sit that is not bare dirt. Need to cut down two trees, so no reason to let that kill all the hard work, so next year:





(YES, THERE IS A GOOSE IN OUR TEMP POND)

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Milorganite in early May, aerated in late May, company I used tore up large patches of grass going too fast and turning quickly:







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Dealing with (still) unknown dead patches (working on identifying cause) and what might be creeping bent grass.

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Current state (better than last fall when I got it):



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This week hand pulled all the (probably) creeping bent grass, topsoil + starter fertilizer + seed. Given the rain we have had and is forecasted, I overseeded the front and back yard to see if they can't take root (seed is cheap).

 

[pennstater2005]

Looks like you've been busy. What seed did you use?

 

[Green]

Fun project!

 

[steensn]

Looks like you've been busy. What seed did you use?

Probably the wrong kind seemed to have the right mix for what my lawn already has..

 

[kolbasz]

small amounts, but the weed and other seed is annoying crap that can certainly lead to larger percentages of annoyance because they dominate the good grass. could be nothing though.

 

[steensn]

small amounts, but the weed and other seed is annoying crap that can certainly lead to larger percentages of annoyance because they dominate the good grass. could be nothing though.

I did a spot spray of Tenacity last night over the bare spots and edges where the "Creeping Bent grass" likely still has some hold. I tried to go a foot out from the visible patch, but as I looked again it seems it was starting to go wider. Hopefully the Tenacity will keep the weeds at bay and kill off any remaining Creeping Bent grass.

Need to do a fungus spray this week, but waiting on the blu dye from Amazon. We have had amazing rain all spring and summer, sadly I did not know that means I should have sprayed for fungus to keep it at bay. Lesson learned, lots fo dead spots middle of the lawn now...

 

[steensn]

New hillbilly lawn stripping kit.



Two weeks after Milo application:







As you can see, there is a nice turn as everyone from our street has to go in and out (dead end, we at the front for about 30 houses). I maximized stripping so that the sun is directly behind as they turn the corner to come home after work The neighbor before me help create a "dramatic" effect.

Got massive germination only days later. Rushed it to take advantage of the storms, didn't even need to water!











Problems:

Milo, heavy rain, hot hot hot, and high humidity = that weird white stuff. I hear it "harmless" and the high heat should allow it to dry out and die. Can anyone confirm?









I believe the brown patch is dead from fungal spray, but it did some massive damage... uggg:

















Another round of fungal spray and tenacity in 3 weeks.

 

[steensn]

Looks like I will be doing a heavy fall overseeding for all the dead patches...

 

[g-man]

I would not do tenacity or more nitrogen until those patches start to recover and our heat lowers.

Nitrogen will push for grow which will require more water in addition to the water the plant is using to "cool" down from the heat. The leafs "sweat". The sweat then is moisture that allows the fungus to grow. Since you already have fungus, I think it is best to avoid more problems with extra nitrogen. I do apply a small amount(0.20lb/M) of nitrogen to my damaged areas, but it is a very fast acting one. Fast acting allows some control instead of slow release.

 

[steensn]

I would not do tenacity or more nitrogen until those patches start to recover and our heat lowers.

Nitrogen will push for grow which will require more water in addition to the water the plant is using to "cool" down from the heat. The leafs "sweat". The sweat then is moisture that allows the fungus to grow. Since you already have fungus, I think it is best to avoid more problems with extra nitrogen. I do apply a small amount(0.20lb/M) of nitrogen to my damaged areas, but it is a very fast acting one. Fast acting allows some control instead of slow release.

For clarity, by nitrogen you mean the Milo? That was applied 2 weeks ago before I knew I had those issues... and/or knew better :shock:

Does Tenacity impact nitrogen?

My understanding is that those patches won't grow back and I need to patch and reseed?

So much I don't understand... so sorry for all the questions. It is why I am here.

 

[g-man]

Milo, cracked corn, or synthetic, any form of nitrogen going forward. Let the lawn recover with the nitrogen it has before additional nitrogen.

Tenacity does not impact nitrogen. Tenacity is a herbicide and with the heat/fungus it could cause more damage to a stress lawn. Hence why I think you should hold off until things improve.

Sometimes the patches recover. The main goal now is for them not to spread/grow.

 

[steensn]

That was what I thought, but hate to assume anything at this point.

 

[steensn]

Seem to have stabilized the brown patch. Have one more fungaside application to go. We have gotten pretty decent rain so grass still thick and growing.

 

[steensn]

Question, should I clean out all the dead grass and leave bare with the hope the good grass starts filling in or leave the dead grass until I'm ready to overseed?

Luckily we have had so much rain in this heat given I out the Milo down before I got your guys excellent feedback not to... :lol:

 

[social port]

New hillbilly lawn stripping kit.

:lol: I tried striping with rebar attached. I put my rebar in a pvc pipe, so it was a hillbilly deluxe model. It looks like yours worked much better than mine :thumbup:

 

[steensn]

New hillbilly lawn stripping kit.

:lol: I tried striping with rebar attached. I put my rebar in a pvc pipe, so it was a hillbilly deluxe model. It looks like yours worked much better than mine :thumbup:

Sounds too fancy for me

This is actually working really well. It's a lot of metal... not sure how much you used.

 

[social port]

Yeah, I can see that it is working for you. Even more impressive is that you are getting those results with, I'm guessing, a sub$15 investment.

I used only 1 piece of rebar. Looks like you've tripled that.

 

[steensn]

Sub-$10, it was the 24" bar from Home Depot. I used 4 of them and cut to length (not a 24" deck). Drill a few holes in the guard and ziptied it in. It is pretty heavy. Only issue is going backwards, it drags underneath but not far enough to hit anything.

 

[steensn]

Was gone for 1.5 weeks and forgot to turn irrigation off from the light settings I had for keeping new seed wet (3x day in from yard for 20 min). While everyone else's yard is going dormant... mine it in power mode. Did a real fast hand aerator on some harder areas I could feel. Here are some shots PRE-cut (will be out tomorrow).









Got some nutsedge



Reseeding going well in the shady spot. It's been 90's for three weeks basically... so the section in the direct sun is not great.







Seeding from earlier in the year(new b-ball hoop) looking great other than the white from previous Tenacity application:





I need to do another application of fungaside after I mow, 2/3 applications. Some of the smaller areas have recovered a bit bit will need to do a big reseeding for fall. Given the temps and results from full sun spot, I assume I can't start fall reno till early Sept.

 

[steensn]

I'm also not 100% sure I have a full tttf lawn. Seems to be a mix of tttf, Fine fescue and Perenial rye. Fine fescue dominates the heavily shaded backyard, transitioning to tttf and rye in the front. But I have no idea at this point...

New seeding:





Shaded section:





Full sun section:







Did second of three (recommended) PROPICONAZOLE fungaside on Sat; cocktail also included liquid aerate, blue marking dye, and Tenacity @50% than normal application. First time with blue marking dye, I can't imagine I ever did a lawn spray correctly without it... showed pretty fast how poorly I covered the lawn before. It did a great job putting color on the fungus dead spots