Anyone actually seen or used this, or have any experience with it? I like the improved disease resistance, and the more lateral growth. I need something to put in the kids play area in the backyard, mostly full sun but a bit gets some shade from oaks, fence, etc. If I like it I'll see how shade tolerant it is and consider extending it into other areas where the dogs run.
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Should have a good idea what you are dealing with after 2 months after sod install.
From the stress from harvest, transport, laying, growing of the new roots and stolons. And with the added weather involved.
I wonder if its along the strain of buffalo like Buffalo - Shademaster - Matilda
https://www.turffinder.com/varieties/shademaster
https://www.turffinder.com/varieties/matilda
https://buffaloreview.com.au/compare-turf
From the stress from harvest, transport, laying, growing of the new roots and stolons. And with the added weather involved.
I wonder if its along the strain of buffalo like Buffalo - Shademaster - Matilda
https://www.turffinder.com/varieties/shademaster
https://www.turffinder.com/varieties/matilda
https://buffaloreview.com.au/compare-turf
If you had an area with dogs and shade..say between the fence and the house, side yard, with some oaks at one end - would you still do floratam vs palmetto? The zoysia I put in the backyard is great on the side fenced off for the kids - but in the dog area is getting destroyed. It just can't grow fast enough to overtake the damage, and it is so dense that the urine scalds it fast, versus trickling through like seems to happen in st. augustine. (that's the theory I've read, as to why st. augustine handles dog pee better than bermuda and zoysia anyway).Greyleafspot said:
Plus, if I have to replace patches here and there it is cheaper and easier to grab a few pieces of st. augustine sod than to get my hands on a few pieces of palisades sod around here. So thinking I may replace that area with st. augustine, and do the side of the yard in the front of the house as well, as I planted bermuda there but it doesn't get enough sun for bermuda.
@ktgrok I don't know. Slide 21 of this presentation says "Increased canopy density" but it's not clear how that is determined.
My Palmetto loves the shade under my oak; I wouldn't expect it to do well with dogs; but I don't have have any to know for sure.
My Palmetto loves the shade under my oak; I wouldn't expect it to do well with dogs; but I don't have have any to know for sure.
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Here's some pics of mine. Sod was installed on 9/11. First pic is 7 days after install. The rest were taken yesterday/today.
Looking at the last 3 pictures, I think I'm definitely having some issues with fungus/insects. Any help would be appreciated.
#4 and #5 are in the front, near the garage. Does this look like insect damage? Sod webworms?
Picure #6 is on the side of the house that does not get much sunlight. It has also been raining a ton here lately so it's getting real nasty. No idea what it is but I'm guessing a fungus of some sort.
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Looking at the last 3 pictures, I think I'm definitely having some issues with fungus/insects. Any help would be appreciated.
#4 and #5 are in the front, near the garage. Does this look like insect damage? Sod webworms?
Picure #6 is on the side of the house that does not get much sunlight. It has also been raining a ton here lately so it's getting real nasty. No idea what it is but I'm guessing a fungus of some sort.
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Firstly, I think it looks gorgeous. I love that deep green color.
I don't see signs of webworm. I'm not sure what's going on with those spots. I hope we get some answers!
I don't see signs of webworm. I'm not sure what's going on with those spots. I hope we get some answers!
Got my flat of CitraBlue in today. Was very surprised to find snails in it!
[media]https://youtu.be/KMur8n5luYg[/media]
I just sent an email to Sod Solutions. Will see what they say.
[media]https://youtu.be/KMur8n5luYg[/media]
I just sent an email to Sod Solutions. Will see what they say.
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Wow that is pretty wild! Wonder what they'll say. Grass is looking good though!
Not to hijack your thread again, but I lifted up a few pieces along the edge of my property that aren't doing too well and found some grubs I think. I lifted 4 pieces (not difficult to lift at all, no roots apparently) and found a grub under 3 of them. Is this a sign of a bigger problem/possible infestation?
I put down Triazicide (Spectracide hose spray) and Bifenthrin (ortho bug b gone hose spray) on 9/13. On 10/4, I saw a bunch of moths as I walked through the grass so I put down GrubEx and another application of Triazicide. Confused how these guys are even here!
Not to hijack your thread again, but I lifted up a few pieces along the edge of my property that aren't doing too well and found some grubs I think. I lifted 4 pieces (not difficult to lift at all, no roots apparently) and found a grub under 3 of them. Is this a sign of a bigger problem/possible infestation?
I put down Triazicide (Spectracide hose spray) and Bifenthrin (ortho bug b gone hose spray) on 9/13. On 10/4, I saw a bunch of moths as I walked through the grass so I put down GrubEx and another application of Triazicide. Confused how these guys are even here!
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From MSU Extension:
You might try a root growth stimulator to get the rooting to kick in to gear.
From MSU Extension:
Read section 2 for products that will work.
You might try a root growth stimulator to get the rooting to kick in to gear.
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@ionicatoms Wow, I feel like I've been duped! Thank you for the link and info!
Any suggestions on RGS? I put down some carbon pro g that I picked up from siteone a couple weeks ago.
Any suggestions on RGS? I put down some carbon pro g that I picked up from siteone a couple weeks ago.
I couldn't say. I would consider whatever products are specifically labeled for root growth. For my plugs, I'll use milorganite.
Ok, so this is a follow-up. Sod Solutions still hasn't e-mailed me back. I called up the farm shown on the label (Todd Valley, which has their own website and it appears you can order directly from them at a lower price) and the receptionist took my complaint and called me back a few hours later after speaking with the greenhouse manager. He said the snails would die on their own and I didn't need to do anything. Well, maybe it's true. I had to go to Ace for another reason, so I checked what they had on hand. They had two options for $10. One product was iron phosphate, the other was sulfur based. I decided to buy neither.ionicatoms said:
Instead I sprayed 32 oz of water mixed with 1/4 oz of palm national over the flat last night. I haven't seen any snails since. I planted my first plugs tonight. Will do more tomorrow.
Literally made an account to discuss Citrablue. I bought plugs back in March and compared to Floratam it's an incredibly slow grower. Everything you've read about it is true regarding drought, shade, color and fungal resistance but if you can bet it won't be filling in very fast.
How far apart were your plugs on install? How much N did you feed it this year?
I have a video of citrablue on YouTube. It's still holding up good. But in one particular spot I know for sure I packed top soil too heavy and it's in the shade and it doesn't like it at all. So it thinned out and look like fungus. I knew it like well drained sandy soil so that was on my part. I likes water a little more than advertised too but don't over do it. I'm on the Mississippi gulf coast and it can get dry from time to time. I also fertilized it with malorganite and it seems to love it. Another thing is I ordered grass plugs as well before I laid my sod and a lot of weeds grew in between them but now they are aggressively overtaking the weeds. It's really good turf you just have to do your maintenance to keep it looking good.
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This has been the opposite of my experience with SA. The dog pee flat destroys it. Sometimes I swear it just dies pre-emptively while the dog is sniffing for the perfect spot. The zenith I have been plugging with has tolerated it far better. Maybe I'm doing something wrong...ktgrok said:
Update on the CitraBlue plugs from Todd Valley.
I planted the plugs on Oct 10. Here's where they are at 6 weeks later.
Left side is "After," right side is "Before."
Top is "before," bottom is "After."
So far, I really like it. It's showing good potential. I'm really excited to see where it's at by the beginning of summer. The color is really interesting.
I planted the plugs on Oct 10. Here's where they are at 6 weeks later.
Left side is "After," right side is "Before."
Top is "before," bottom is "After."
So far, I really like it. It's showing good potential. I'm really excited to see where it's at by the beginning of summer. The color is really interesting.
Update on CitraBlue test spot at the property boundary. It's doing very well.
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I put in 1700 sq ft in last sept. It is a slow grower and is not as shade tolerant as advertised. I started mowing mine at 3 inches and then bumped it up to the top setting and it is doing much better. I have two large dogs and they tear it up pretty easy and the urine spots take forever to fill in. I haven't had any issues with water and seems to be pretty drought tolerant. It lives up to the disease resistance because I had to treat my floratam in my front three to four times more during the rainy season this year. I did have some issues with sod webworms from the farm but that was easily cured.
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