Assume you are going after grubs with chlorantraniliprole. what is bifen for? Grub pesticides need to be watered in. Mole cricket pesticides also. If what you are targeting both need watering in, then mixing is ok.
Chlorantraniliprole and bifenthrin
I'm putting down chlorantraniliprole this week. Is there a waiting period before I can put down a dose of bifenthrin or can they go down together?
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You can put them down together. Bifen will handle surface insects.
Zero warm season experience here. What would be the benefit of mixing the two?
I don't think there is a difference for warm or cool season grass.
Bifenthrin works on a wider range of insect pests and can be effective by contact rather than ingestion.
Chlorantraniliprole is usually targeted at aphids and worms; generally made less water soluble to get to the root zone and stay in the soil much longer.
Bifenthrin works on a wider range of insect pests and can be effective by contact rather than ingestion.
Chlorantraniliprole is usually targeted at aphids and worms; generally made less water soluble to get to the root zone and stay in the soil much longer.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is what does mixing in bifenthrin handle insect wise that would need immediate attention in the south that the Chlorantraniliprole is not going to handle in the future?
What comes to mind is that Bifen can serve as the topical insecticide like ticks, mosquitos, and the crawlers …. And the other is more for soil insects, ie grubs. (??).
Your down south. What lawn insects would you be dealing with currently? Obviously not grubs yet, mole crickets? Ticks?What comes to mind is that Bifen can serve as the topical insecticide like ticks, mosquitos, and the crawlers …. And the other is more for soil insects, ie grubs. (??).
Mosquitos would be bifen on vertical surfaces, and spiders would be a spray with bifen around exterior or home.
Not sure that combining the two makes practical sense so I agree that there isn’t a good reason to do so.. the contact insecticide being something I spray around house & lawn perimeter near the wood line. No need for chlorantriniliprole there. But our soil temps are already in the mid-high 60s and preventative grub apps are in full swing. Also sod webworms and the like… along with the swarming gnats that like to live in tall grasses. In the south there’s hardly a season when you don’t need to spray some sort of insecticide, it seems. 😳🤷♂️😝Your down south. What lawn insects would you be dealing with currently? Obviously not grubs yet, mole crickets? Ticks?
Mosquitos would be bifen on vertical surfaces, and spiders would be a spray with bifen around exterior or home.
Chlorantraniliprole is a grub preventative that Purdue posted is not for Chinch bugs while Pyrethroids like bifenthrin will work on them. I very briefly tried to find if the product works on a wide range of insects and didn't get definitive answers. One site said it did not work on ants. Since it is not labeled for many other insects, I would assume I might need a different product.
I happen to be in an area that does not have grub issues, so I haven't had to apply it yet (but I have Acelpryn on hand as needed). I have gotten used to putting down a general insect killer; I am currently using lamda-cyhalothrin (CS) with Nylar/NyGuard. When I run out, my next product on standby is gamma-cyhalothrin.
I'm in a country area with woods and water and the bugs can be intense. I really enjoy the immediate area outside where there are no gnats, ants, crickets, fleas, ticks, flies, mosquitos, spiders, etc. I highly recommended to put down some pollinator safe methods of insect control if needed.
I happen to be in an area that does not have grub issues, so I haven't had to apply it yet (but I have Acelpryn on hand as needed). I have gotten used to putting down a general insect killer; I am currently using lamda-cyhalothrin (CS) with Nylar/NyGuard. When I run out, my next product on standby is gamma-cyhalothrin.
I'm in a country area with woods and water and the bugs can be intense. I really enjoy the immediate area outside where there are no gnats, ants, crickets, fleas, ticks, flies, mosquitos, spiders, etc. I highly recommended to put down some pollinator safe methods of insect control if needed.
I'm sure you know as you stated earlier, but acelepryn would not be a good choice for curative grub control due to the water in-solubility.
Very good product to put down in early/mid spring and not have to worry about grubs but much much more effective products for curative.
Very good product to put down in early/mid spring and not have to worry about grubs but much much more effective products for curative.
I have been updating my irrigation system and noticed June bugs flying around in my yard, so I want to get something done before new hatched grubs start doing damage on the lawn in the coming months. I also am starting to hear mole crickets. I am seeing chinch bugs and spiders all over the yard, so I want to also put some bifenthrin down. I was trying to see if I can put both down the same day or have to wait between apps if that’s a thing.Assume you are going after grubs with chlorantraniliprole. what is bifen for? Grub pesticides need to be watered in. Mole cricket pesticides also. If what you are targeting both need watering in, then mixing is ok.
Where I am, not only did I see a quite a few grubs in the lawn 4-6 weeks ago, I am also seeing June bugs flying all over my yards (assuming they are laying eggs). It was a warmer winter and I saw active grubs out of hibernation in late February. When I was doing irrigation work, I dug up some June beetle larvae. They are here. And I am hearing mole cricket chirping in my backyard at night, esp. after the rain.Your down south. What lawn insects would you be dealing with currently? Obviously not grubs yet, mole crickets? Ticks?
Mosquitos would be bifen on vertical surfaces, and spiders would be a spray with bifen around exterior or home.
Going after newly hatched grubs that will cause damage during the summer months and into fall. The bifen is for surface insect like ants, chinch bugs, spiders, ticks.Zero warm season experience here. What would be the benefit of mixing the two?
You can put down both at the same time. I know there are some products that already combine a curative grub control with insecticide (ex duocide). For better effect, add an IGR - I suggest nyguard since it is more photo-stable than other options.I have been updating my irrigation system and noticed June bugs flying around in my yard, so I want to get something done before new hatched grubs start doing damage on the lawn in the coming months. I also am starting to hear mole crickets. I am seeing chinch bugs and spiders all over the yard, so I want to also put some bifenthrin down. I was trying to see if I can put both down the same day or have to wait between apps if that’s a thing.
You need to water in the grub control to reach them underground while bifenthrin and similar will knock down surface insects. For longer control, use a micro encapsulated formulation or a product that has a longer slow release residual so you don’t have to reapply each month. Demand CS or Scion are good options.
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