[Guest]

I found this little picture on twitter comparing some
Bermuda grass. It was meant to be promoting tifgrand but I have to say that latitude 36 grass looks really good to me too!!! How would either do here in Raleigh NC, zone 7. My centipede took quite a bit of damage from winter kill with all the wacky weather and it has me wondering.

 

[Movingshrub]

That's neat. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Guest]

That's neat. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah, im really tempted to go with bermuda and remove all centipede i have. I know of tiftuf and tifgrand in my area. I have not seen the lat 36 in person that i know of. Ive got about half a front yard greened up and the other half is blank. All dead or hurt from winter

 

[DeliveryMan]

I think the TifGrand would probably be a bit better if you have a shade issue to deal with..

I also live in Raleigh and have about 3000 sq ft of Tiftuf.. The front yard is in full sun and it looks awsome.. The back is shaded by a neighbors enormous Oak and the tiftuf is having a tougher time back there

 

[Movingshrub]

I think the TifGrand would probably be a bit better if you have a shade issue to deal with..

I also live in Raleigh and have about 3000 sq ft of Tiftuf.. The front yard is in full sun and it looks awsome.. The back is shaded by a neighbors enormous Oak and the tiftuf is having a tougher time back there

If the TifTuf is struggling, I don't know if Tifgrand would do much better.

 

[DeliveryMan]

@Movingshrub

I thought that was the whole point of TifGrand -- isn't it supposed to deal better with 50% shade than some of the other hybrids..

Of course this is marketing, but this is on the website of SuperSod..

https://www.supersod.com/sod/bermuda-sod/tifgrand-bermuda.html

 

[w0lfe]

@Movingshrub

I thought that was the whole point of TifGrand -- isn't it supposed to deal better with 50% shade than some of the other hybrids..

Of course this is marketing, but this is on the website of SuperSod..

https://www.supersod.com/sod/bermuda-sod/tifgrand-bermuda.html

Just my opinion, but 50% better when talking about Bermuda shade tolerances still would equate to very little shade.

 

[Guest]

@Movingshrub

I thought that was the whole point of TifGrand -- isn't it supposed to deal better with 50% shade than some of the other hybrids..

Of course this is marketing, but this is on the website of SuperSod..

https://www.supersod.com/sod/bermuda-sod/tifgrand-bermuda.html

From what supersod told me, it has to be maintained very short to stay thick in shady conditions. They still said a minimum of 5-6 full hours of sun for tifgrand

 

[Thor865]

I have Tifgrand because I have a 2 story home front facing west so backyard gets 7 hours of sunlight from sun up to around 1/2 and shade begins. Also Tifgrand can be maintained to green height quality which I planned on doing beside my patio is cutting a fringe and green so we will see how it does.

 

[Movingshrub]

I think Tifgrand and Tiftuf at both better than Tifway for shade tolerance but I don't think Tifgrand is THAT much better at shade tolerance than Tiftuf.

Here is a video where Dr. Brian Schwartz, with UGA, talks about Tiftuf. Around 15min or so he starts talking about the shade tolerance aspect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb4oRryDIA0

 

[Guest]

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the lat36? It seems like a very popular grass for sports fields all over.

 

[Ware]

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the lat36? It seems like a very popular grass for sports fields all over.

Several members here have it. If I was establishing a new yard today, it would be near/at the top of my list.

 

[J_nick]

If you're concerned with winter kill L36 would be your best option.

 

[SGrabs33]

Very interesting pic. @firefighter11 The Durham bulls have lat36 on their foul ball areas and infield if you wanted to check it out. Their outfield is still tifway 419. My neighbor had a poa field for his front yard this year and decided to till up what was there, put down some topsoil, and laid tiftuf. It's been down for about a week so I'll see how that does.

@w0lfe Very good observation, 50% better than 0 is still 0 :lol: I know that stat is really what what they try and push with homeowners over @ supersod. We will see.

 

[Guest]

Very interesting pic. @firefighter11 The Durham bulls have lat36 on their foul ball areas and infield if you wanted to check it out. Their outfield is still tifway 419. My neighbor had a poa field for his front yard this year and decided to till up what was there, put down some topsoil, and laid tiftuf. It's been down for about a week so I'll see how that does.

@w0lfe Very good observation, 50% better than 0 is still 0 :lol: I know that stat is really what what they try and push with homeowners over @ supersod. We will see.

I need to go out there with the family and watch a game and check out the turf. I recently just got a few pieces of tifgrand for a test plot next to the driveway. Going to test it out for a bit and see how i like it compared the rest of the centipede in the front yard.

 

[Movingshrub]

If you're concerned with winter kill L36 would be your best option.

I'm not sure if I agree with the word "best" but I do agree that Lat 36 is a VERY good option.

The document linked below shows testing on winter kill and spring green-up.
Also, "DT-1" is TifTuf.

Performance of New Bermudagrass Varieties in the Southeast
http://www.caes.uga.edu/content/dam/caes-website/extension-outreach/commodities/georgiaturf/docs/se-turf/presentations/2015/2015-kyley-****son.pdf

Edit - Original link is cropped due to a filter on the forum; here is a tiny URL version https://tinyurl.com/y82t3gds

TifTuf and Lat 36 seem to be very comparable cultivars. Both green-up fast and do well against winter kill. They both handle wear and tear very well. With TifTuf you get the shade and drought tolerance, and the TifTuf cultivar seems to be neck-and-neck with Lat 36 on the appearance/color/quality aspect. Am I missing something, like a resistance to nematode, spring dead spot, or shear strength that is very different in Lat 36 vs TifTuf? I'm trying not to be bias but I don't understand the appeal of Lat 36 over TifTuf.

 

[Guest]

If you're concerned with winter kill L36 would be your best option.

I'm not sure if I agree with the word "best" but I do agree that Lat 36 is a VERY good option.

The document linked below shows testing on winter kill and spring green-up.
Also, "DT-1" is TifTuf.

Performance of New Bermudagrass Varieties in the Southeast
http://www.caes.uga.edu/content/dam/caes-website/extension-outreach/commodities/georgiaturf/docs/se-turf/presentations/2015/2015-kyley-****son.pdf

TifTuf and Lat 36 seem to be very comparable cultivars. Both green-up fast and do well against winter kill. They both handle wear and tear very well. With TifTuf you get the shade and drought tolerance, and the TifTuf cultivar seems to be neck-and-neck with Lat 36 on the appearance/color/quality aspect. Am I missing something, like a resistance to nematode, spring dead spot, or shear strength that is very different in Lat 36 vs TifTuf? I'm trying not to be bias but I don't understand the appeal of Lat 36 over TifTuf.

I think they are both pretty close. I couldn't get lat 36 except by the pallet and im not ready to do that so i bought 4 rolls of tifgrand to try a small spot under a crepe myrtle. From looking at them in person today i dont think you can go wrong with any of the popular hybrids. I tried the link you shared and it gives a error. I told the sod farm i wanted the softest bermuda they had barefooted and they told me tifgrand so that was my deciding factor :shock:
It cant do any worse on winter kill than the centipede i had. I probably lost half of my front yard.

 

[Movingshrub]

So the reason the link doesn't work is because the author's name is D-I-C-K-S-O-N and apparently some kind of foul language filter cropped out the spelling of the name in the link.

http://www.caes.uga.edu/content/dam/caes-website/extension-outreach/commodities/georgiaturf/docs/se-turf/presentations/2015/2015-kyley-d---.pdf

The three dashes aren't supposed to be in the link. As a result, I made a tiny URL version https://tinyurl.com/y82t3gds

If you all would prefer a different route, google - "Performance of New Bermudagrass Varieties in the Southeast"

 

[Guest]

So the reason the link doesn't work is because the author's name is D-I-C-K-S-O-N and apparently some kind of foul language filter cropped out the spelling of the name in the link.

http://www.caes.uga.edu/content/dam/caes-website/extension-outreach/commodities/georgiaturf/docs/se-turf/presentations/2015/2015-kyley-d---.pdf

The three dashes aren't supposed to be in the link. As a result, I made a tiny URL version https://tinyurl.com/y82t3gds

If you all would prefer a different route, google - "Performance of New Bermudagrass Varieties in the Southeast"

Thanks for the link. Looks like tiftuf did very well. I hope tifgrand has some similarities. 😀

 

[Guest]

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the lat36? It seems like a very popular grass for sports fields all over.

Several members here have it. If I was establishing a new yard today, it would be near/at the top of my list.

what would be your choices at the top?