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Can you get too aggressive dethatching bermuda?

I have another thread about a cutting with a GM1600 and the cut being unlevel. I sent the mower to get sharpened and while it has been away I have been bored...

In that thread it was recommended to verticut or dethatch. Hard to find a verticutter in OKC so I decided to detatch.

I pulled a significant amount of thatch off my yard. Keep in mind I scalped at .250". One thing I quickly noticed was it was scalping the high spots aggressively. Which is part of the reason I am unhappy with my cut. So I dethatched two directions and am beginning to wonder if it was too aggressive.

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The zoomed in picture is the most aggressive part.
 

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You'll be fine. If anything, the dethatcher probably helped shave down some of the high spots.
+1 I verticut my lawn in 4 directions last year and it did just fine and it really got rid of the mat layer bermuda can develop :thumbup:
 

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@J_nick That's an awesome process, and I can see how that would definitely scare some turf managers.
I would fraze mow my lawn in a heartbeat if I could :thumbup:
 

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Can you get too aggressive dethatching bermuda?

I have another thread about a cutting with a GM1600 and the cut being unlevel. I sent the mower to get sharpened and while it has been away I have been bored...

In that thread it was recommended to verticut or dethatch. Hard to find a verticutter in OKC so I decided to detatch.

I pulled a significant amount of thatch off my yard. Keep in mind I scalped at .250". One thing I quickly noticed was it was scalping the high spots aggressively. Which is part of the reason I am unhappy with my cut. So I dethatched two directions and am beginning to wonder if it was too aggressive.

Here are some pictures:







The zoomed in picture is the most aggressive part.
That's not aggressive at all. By my standards, it is fairly conservative. I do not stop until I see dirt in most places.
 

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I have the same issue right now. Started to rehab my lawn this year and went two directions as well with the dethatcher leaving multiple bare/thin spots in my yard. They have not filled in yet but everyone seems to agree that it should.
 

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I have the same issue right now. Started to rehab my lawn this year and went two directions as well with the dethatcher leaving multiple bare/thin spots in my yard. They have not filled in yet but everyone seems to agree that it should.
What are daytime temps? I need to preface my lack of fear cutting a lawn down with not doing it when conditions are not ideal for it to grow back quickly. There is a period between October-May when I will not thing or scalp a lawn. No frost or ice in my area, but a lack of sun and suboptimal temperatures is normal for that part of the year.
 

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I wonder how deep one can set the Verticut reel on a GM 1000? This is not the groomer, this is the kit with a special rear shield, special front roller brackets, and, of course the Dynablade reel. Fraze mowing is a Verticut set to go deep and with very close cuts.[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-eKVKoPKk[/media]
 

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I wonder how deep one can set the Verticut reel on a GM 1000? This is not the groomer, this is the kit with a special rear shield, special front roller brackets, and, of course the Dynablade reel. Fraze mowing is a Verticut set to go deep and with very close cuts.[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-eKVKoPKk[/media]
 

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I wonder how deep one can set the Verticut reel on a GM 1000? This is not the groomer, this is the kit with a special rear shield, special front roller brackets, and, of course the Dynablade reel. Fraze mowing is a Verticut set to go deep and with very close cuts.[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-eKVKoPKk[/media]
I had one, but recently passed it on to @Redtenchu to free up some space in my garage. It had the standard non Dynablades on it when I bought it. I got a set of Dyna's for it but never got around to installing them. Anyway, Redtenchu has it now and could probably answer those questions. I think a new conversion kit is somewhere on the order of $1500. They are pricey.
 

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How long before someone just uses a power rake to do the poor man's fraze mowing on their lawn or fabricates their own fraze mowing equipment?
I think it's a little more involved to create your own fraze mower as it basically removes the top layer of soil and discharges it to a trailer being towed along side of it. It could be done on your own but it would be a lot more labor intensive.
 

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Greendoc said:
I wonder how deep one can set the Verticut reel on a GM 1000? This is not the groomer, this is the kit with a special rear shield, special front roller brackets, and, of course the Dynablade reel. Fraze mowing is a Verticut set to go deep and with very close cuts.[media]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dk-eKVKoPKk[/media]
I had one, but recently passed it on to @Redtenchu to free up some space in my garage. It had the standard non Dynablades on it when I bought it. I got a set of Dyna's for it but never got around to installing them. Anyway, Redtenchu has it now and could probably answer those questions. I think a new conversion kit is somewhere on the order of $1500. They are pricey.
Only other machines I think are equivalent are Gradens or Sisis. Around $10,000. A $1500 kit becomes very attractive to me.
 

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Only other machines I think are equivalent are Gradens or Sisis. Around $10,000. A $1500 kit becomes very attractive to me.
There were a couple used Graden machines in the last Weeks auction. I think they went for about $1k each.
 
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