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Discussion starter · #221 ·
8-18-25

Ended up with over 1/2" of rain starting about 2 hours after my double fungicide + Bifenthrin combo. Hope they can do something systemic because I'm sure anything contact is gone.

I can't care about it. I'm choosing to pretend that God knew it wasn't needed or something was harmful or it needed to be washed in and so that's why it rained. Yeah. That's it.

So tomorrow the forecast now calls for rain. I'm not even playing around. I'm not going to stress myself out spending 1.5hrs on the back yard spraying only to have this happen again.

So here's what needs to happen - it needs to be ok without being sprayed. I will wait until later this week and the weather will get better and fungus pressure will go away and there will be rainbows and happiness.

I'm very glad this didn't happen after the Pylex application. I will take the watering. (even though I watered the front yesterday and the entire back today - whatever)

The grass will be happy. The weather will cool down.

Unfortunately I'm not good enough at pretending and denial to convince myself that the renovation is going to recover. I can't make myself believe that. I just hope to God that it doesn't continue to die. Right now I have 2 bad areas and 2 or 3 "not as bad" areas and the rest is small and will be "fixed" just by adjacent grass plants "filling in".

If the 2 or 3 not as bad areas get worse I will have a lot of large patches of dead grass that I am 95% sure is not coming back. It will be not good and I will be not OK.

This renovation needs to go into fall looking good or I'm going to be dreading this year's seeding. What's the point if it'll be half dead by next year?

Once again I have to state - I am absolutely not doing this every year. I'm not starting over with 50% dead grass. I'm not talking about heat stress that bounces back in the fall or thinning fescue that needs to be overseeded every few years. I'm talking about major reseeding that almost amounts to a renovation in large areas every year.

If that's going to be a thing - I can't do it. Physically or financially. Or mentally for that matter.

So I need renovation 2024 to be ok so I can know next year when renovation 2025 might be looking the same - that it will be ok.

That's enough of that...

Look at these 2 pictures...

I was walking by the open gate this evening and did a double take when I saw the huge contrast between the sections I mowed yesterday with the super recycler vs the rest that I did with the zero turn.

The super recycler was set to 3.25" and the zero turn was set to 3.5". The ZT area looks like I mowed it at SR 2 7/8". It's so short! I'm OK with it but I didn't realize it was such a huge difference. It's set 1/4" higher and still mowing at least 1/4" lower.

It was very obvious in person (at least to me) I'm not sure how well anyone besides me will be able to see it. Everything outside the fence (the bottom of the first picture) and inside the fence up to the back of the house was cut with the super recycler (push mower) at 3.25". Also the one mower width along the fence to the right. Everything else was cut with the zero turn at 3.5". There's a straight line across from the fence to the back of the house. It's a lighter color from being cut shorter.

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The slightly darker/greener part starting at the back of the house and the darker stripe 1 mower width from the fence beyond the post with the most rust staining on it are the push mower cut. The shorter zero turn cut is lighter. The line cuts from that same post across and past the back of the house.

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Just an interesting thing I noticed. I wish the zero turn had an in between setting because 4" is just ridiculous. I was using it but it's so shaggy looking.

Enough for today!
 
8-18-25

Ended up with over 1/2" of rain starting about 2 hours after my double fungicide + Bifenthrin combo. Hope they can do something systemic because I'm sure anything contact is gone.

I can't care about it. I'm choosing to pretend that God knew it wasn't needed or something was harmful or it needed to be washed in and so that's why it rained. Yeah. That's it.

So tomorrow the forecast now calls for rain. I'm not even playing around. I'm not going to stress myself out spending 1.5hrs on the back yard spraying only to have this happen again.

So here's what needs to happen - it needs to be ok without being sprayed. I will wait until later this week and the weather will get better and fungus pressure will go away and there will be rainbows and happiness.

I'm very glad this didn't happen after the Pylex application. I will take the watering. (even though I watered the front yesterday and the entire back today - whatever)

The grass will be happy. The weather will cool down.

Unfortunately I'm not good enough at pretending and denial to convince myself that the renovation is going to recover. I can't make myself believe that. I just hope to God that it doesn't continue to die. Right now I have 2 bad areas and 2 or 3 "not as bad" areas and the rest is small and will be "fixed" just by adjacent grass plants "filling in".

If the 2 or 3 not as bad areas get worse I will have a lot of large patches of dead grass that I am 95% sure is not coming back. It will be not good and I will be not OK.

This renovation needs to go into fall looking good or I'm going to be dreading this year's seeding. What's the point if it'll be half dead by next year?

Once again I have to state - I am absolutely not doing this every year. I'm not starting over with 50% dead grass. I'm not talking about heat stress that bounces back in the fall or thinning fescue that needs to be overseeded every few years. I'm talking about major reseeding that almost amounts to a renovation in large areas every year.

If that's going to be a thing - I can't do it. Physically or financially. Or mentally for that matter.

So I need renovation 2024 to be ok so I can know next year when renovation 2025 might be looking the same - that it will be ok.

That's enough of that...

Look at these 2 pictures...

I was walking by the open gate this evening and did a double take when I saw the huge contrast between the sections I mowed yesterday with the super recycler vs the rest that I did with the zero turn.

The super recycler was set to 3.25" and the zero turn was set to 3.5". The ZT area looks like I mowed it at SR 2 7/8". It's so short! I'm OK with it but I didn't realize it was such a huge difference. It's set 1/4" higher and still mowing at least 1/4" lower.

It was very obvious in person (at least to me) I'm not sure how well anyone besides me will be able to see it. Everything outside the fence (the bottom of the first picture) and inside the fence up to the back of the house was cut with the super recycler (push mower) at 3.25". Also the one mower width along the fence to the right. Everything else was cut with the zero turn at 3.5". There's a straight line across from the fence to the back of the house. It's a lighter color from being cut shorter.

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The slightly darker/greener part starting at the back of the house and the darker stripe 1 mower width from the fence beyond the post with the most rust staining on it are the push mower cut. The shorter zero turn cut is lighter. The line cuts from that same post across and past the back of the house.

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Just an interesting thing I noticed. I wish the zero turn had an in between setting because 4" is just ridiculous. I was using it but it's so shaggy looking.

Enough for today!
I like the collar approach you did with the 2 mowers! I don’t think it looks bad at all but can understand the WTH moment you probably had when you noticed it!
 
Discussion starter · #224 ·
8-19-25

No lawn stuff today. I decided to not risk it with the forecast and for once it was "right". We got another 3/4 " of rain today!

I guess everything is fully watered at this point. The front will just be out of fungicide protection since all that rain surely washed it off. Maybe some will have been absorbed.

Tomorrow I have to mow both of the "other yards" but I am considering getting up early to spray the back. (Azoxy + Chlorothalonil preventive + Bifenthrin)

Maybe this weekend I'll do Propiconazole on the front just to throw my schedule totally off.

Supposedly it's not going to rain tomorrow. Winds 5-10 and high 85. After tomorrow the forecast shows all low 80s and upper 70s for high temperatures.

That's good for the Pylex zones. I want low stress out there for the Fescue after hitting it with the triclopyr and mso.

So I don't know what I'll do. I'd rather not get up early and totally "mess up" my Wednesday schedule but if I wait for an evening spray there won't be as much time between the application and the rain we are most likely getting on Thursday. I might just have to suck it up and get up at 6 when my husband gets up for work.

Maybe it could go smoothly and I could actually get back in bed at 8 for a few hours. A girl can dream....

Hmmm... That reminds me.. I should go plug in that battery charger.

Here's a random picture of Mr crossy paws since it wasn't a lawn day...

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Discussion starter · #225 ·
I think this picture does a good job of showing how absolutely terrible the front looks right now. It just keeps getting worse. More and more brown. I wish I could know if it was going to recover.

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Discussion starter · #230 · (Edited)
8-21-25

I've ordered 32oz of Mefenoxam. It will be here tomorrow. I was planning to get it for the new renovation and I'm now thinking of trying it on the dying front yard (renovation 2024) Maybe I'll combine it with Propiconazole this weekend.

I'm running low on Chlorothalonil. I've gone through almost 2.5 gallons. It has such a high rate even for preventive. I need to order another 2.5gal.
 
Discussion starter · #233 ·
Plan for 8-22 is to mow the back - what's left of it (hah)

Mefenoxam is being delivered today (Friday) and I may mix it with Propiconazole and spray the front on Saturday. It probably won't be delivered early enough to do it Friday. I guess I would do the curative rate which is apparently 1oz/1k. That still leaves me with plenty for renovation 2025.

Maybe someday I'll just buy the 50 gallon drums of all the fungicides. I can become the regional distributor or something. As long as no one wants to see my lawn to see the results of such diligence. It's definitely not looking like anything that would prompt anyone to ask "what's your secret?" more like - "She's always out there working and it looks absolutely terrible!"
 
Discussion starter · #234 ·
8-22-25

Main part of the back still looks good. Mowed with super recycler 2 7/8" perimeter and zero turn 3.5" everywhere else. That matches a little better than last week. Bermudagrass is hurting and that makes me happy.

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I now have 32 oz of Mefenoxam and an entire gallon of Azoxystrobin.

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Plan for 8-22 is to mow the back - what's left of it (hah)

Mefenoxam is being delivered today (Friday) and I may mix it with Propiconazole and spray the front on Saturday. It probably won't be delivered early enough to do it Friday. I guess I would do the curative rate which is apparently 1oz/1k. That still leaves me with plenty for renovation 2025.

Maybe someday I'll just buy the 50 gallon drums of all the fungicides. I can become the regional distributor or something. As long as no one wants to see my lawn to see the results of such diligence. It's definitely not looking like anything that would prompt anyone to ask "what's your secret?" more like - "She's always out there working and it looks absolutely terrible!"
I like the distributor idea! Maybe there will be a good discount too🤣
 
Discussion starter · #237 · (Edited)
I wonder if the Chlorothalonil DF would be easier to deal with. (dry flowable) 10 lbs of granules vs 2.5 gallons of liquid.

It's hard to compare the rates because they're agricultural and everything is in acres and I haven't figured out the rate for the DF.


It says it's comparable to Daconil Ultrex. Daconil Ultrex says 1-5oz per 1k for turf. It also says it has surfactant but the DF does not mention surfactant.

1-5oz of "powder" would sure be easier to deal with than 5.5oz of liquid. (22oz for curative on my 4k reno)
 
Discussion starter · #238 ·
I'm thinking Propiconazole + Azoxystrobin both at curative rates for the 4k front.

I'm also working on Nimblewill out there and it's been 2 weeks since my Mesotrione application. I guess I could wait one more week on that. It's also due for Prodiamine.

sigh I hate when everything comes up at once. I might just do the fungicides today and try to figure out the other stuff later.

It doesn't help that it looks terrible so I don't even want to go outside at this point.
 
Discussion starter · #239 ·
Are you freaking kidding me with this forecast?

Not only did the wind change to 10-15mph from 5-10 that has been forecast on this day for as long as it's been showing in the forecast but now it says there's a chance of showers in the morning!

There was NO FREAKING RAIN IN THE FORECAST.

I was waiting for evening to spray the fungicide. (azoxy + propi) Now I don't know if I should bother if it's going to get rained on in the morning. Of course it will be dry as a bone if I don't spray.

It's only 30% chance but what difference does that even make and why do I even look at it? It literally means nothing because it changes every 5 freaking minutes.
 
Are you freaking kidding me with this forecast?

Not only did the wind change to 10-15mph from 5-10 that has been forecast on this day for as long as it's been showing in the forecast but now it says there's a chance of showers in the morning!

There was NO FREAKING RAIN IN THE FORECAST.

I was waiting for evening to spray the fungicide. (azoxy + propi) Now I don't know if I should bother if it's going to get rained on in the morning. Of course it will be dry as a bone if I don't spray.

It's only 30% chance but what difference does that even make and why do I even look at it? It literally means nothing because it changes every 5 freaking minutes.
The wind is killing me right now. All I have left to do with overseed is spray pgr, propi, and meso but it's a steady 10-15mph wind.
 
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