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I have this tractor from my grandfather, been using it without issue for about 10 years now. recently, it stopped wanting to start properly.

I am required to pour gas into the carburetor at which time it starts and runs without issue.

Hopefully it is something stupid as the tractor runs fine other than the failure to start because inadequate start fuel. I did recently clean the carburetor thinking it was dirty, but it was not, it is clean.
 

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MasterMech said:
Does the choke close completely? If not, the cable may need to be adjusted to allow the choke valve to completely close.
I believe so, depending on when last used it will start ok without me having to dump fuel into the carb.

Maybe as noted the pump isn't pumping enough to get it started, then once it's going it is ok
 

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kolbasz said:
mine is most similar to this: http://outdoorpowerinfo.com/repairs/briggs_opposed_twin_carb.asp
Oh yeah! Those are old school 80s and 90s for sure. There are two major versions, a three screw and four screw. Take note of which you have before you buy a replacement or a rebuild kit. The fuel pump diaphragms can get pretty stretched out and rupture on those, or the fuel and vacuum lines were pretty susceptible to rot and vapor lock depending on the exact exhaust/heat setup used.
 

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I believe so, depending on when last used it will start ok without me having to dump fuel into the carb.

Maybe as noted the pump isn't pumping enough to get it started, then once it's going it is ok
This sounds a lot like the issues I've had with my almost 20 year old Kohler CV15-powered tractor since it was new. Sometimes it wouldn't start without a little starter fluid after being idle for a while. The fuel filter is clear, so I could see that gas wasn't getting sucked in to the carb at times without a little help. I figured it was a weak fuel pump, but the original one died a few years ago and it behaved the same way with a brand new one. Two years ago I removed and cleaned out the gas tank and rebuilt the carb (which was surprisingly clean) and it still needs a little starter fluid every once in a while to get going. The thing still runs great once it's running, so I just work around it at this point.
 

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massgrass said:
kolbasz said:
I believe so, depending on when last used it will start ok without me having to dump fuel into the carb.

Maybe as noted the pump isn't pumping enough to get it started, then once it's going it is ok
This sounds a lot like the issues I've had with my almost 20 year old Kohler CV15-powered tractor since it was new. Sometimes it wouldn't start without a little starter fluid after being idle for a while. The fuel filter is clear, so I could see that gas wasn't getting sucked in to the carb at times without a little help. I figured it was a weak fuel pump, but the original one died a few years ago and it behaved the same way with a brand new one. Two years ago I removed and cleaned out the gas tank and rebuilt the carb (which was surprisingly clean) and it still needs a little starter fluid every once in a while to get going. The thing still runs great once it's running, so I just work around it at this point.
Some of those Kohlers with hydraulic lifters suffered from the lifters not bleeding down correctly after sitting. They would crank but not build compression due to the valves being held open when they were not supposed to be. A whiff of starting fluid or carb cleaner and they might fire, and get good oil pressure to the lifters again, start working and it's off to the races again. If that was the case, the engines would usually cough, fire, back fire through the intake a time or two, and then take off.
 
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